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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Jason
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      @Jason said:

      2.) if your company upgrades to every version of the software, For example if you upgraded all computers from WinXP, to Win7, then Win8, Win8.1 and now are considering Win10 then it would be worth it For the desktop. If for example you upgrade from Win XP -> Win7 and now conserding windows 10 it would have not been worth it.

      Same goes for Office if you went from 2003->2007->2010->2013->2016 it would be
      If you went 2003->2010>2016 it would not be worth it to get SA.

      And in these cases VL+SA is one option and now Office 365 and InTune options will cover this upgrade path too. The movement is away from traditional to subscription licensing.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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        @BRRABill said:

        My point being if a 200 PC company wants this and can get it for under $500 ... why don't just allow people to image?

        I'm sure it involves control, monitoring and getting people into the VL program.

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        • brianlittlejohnB
          brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Dashrender said:

          @JaredBusch

          You cannot image 200 machines with OEM Windows 7 to Windows 10 by only purchasing 1 Windows 10 VL.

          Yeah, this is my current problem... I'm going to have to manually upgrade all of my win7 and win 8 to win 10... Then use my VL to roll images... What a pain!

          Is that true? Is that because you have some path that by doing it manually MS will grant you upgrade rights but only one version at a time? What is making this the case?

          I remember a SW thread where Chris from Microsoft addressed this, and to upgrade your machines to 10 and image them, you have to manually run the update to 10, then go back and re-image.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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            @BRRABill said:

            DESKTOP: is it even worth discussing SA, or is it too complicated? Maybe a high level overview, or the Cliff Notes version?

            If you want to be "always up to date" on your desktops, want a few unique features or are doing VDI then SA is often the way to go, as @jason pointed out.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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              @brianlittlejohn said:

              I remember a SW thread where Chris from Microsoft addressed this, and to upgrade your machines to 10 and image them, you have to manually run the update to 10, then go back and re-image.

              To get the free upgrade, you mean? Since there is a free 8.1 -> 10 path, I could see that. Is there something similar to get from 7 -> 8?

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              • brianlittlejohnB
                brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller I don't think there is a free upgrade path to 8.1 only directly to 10

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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                  @brianlittlejohn said:

                  @scottalanmiller I don't think there is a free upgrade path to 8.1 only directly to 10

                  How would that help his situation then? Once he has the upgrade rights, just jump to 10. I must be missing something.

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                  • hobbit666H
                    hobbit666 @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said:

                    @JaredBusch

                    You cannot image 200 machines with OEM Windows 7 to Windows 10 by only purchasing 1 Windows 10 VL.

                    Yeah, this is my current problem... I'm going to have to manually upgrade all of my win7 and win 8 to win 10... Then use my VL to roll images... What a pain!

                    This is what i'm looking at doing but only for new machines. Manually upgrade them to Win10. Then deploy a image that has our software on it.

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                    • Reid CooperR
                      Reid Cooper
                      last edited by

                      Sounds like most large businesses will just pay for upgrade rights, probably cheaper on a machine by machine basis. And way easier to track.

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                      • brianlittlejohnB
                        brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @brianlittlejohn said:

                        @scottalanmiller I don't think there is a free upgrade path to 8.1 only directly to 10

                        How would that help his situation then? Once he has the upgrade rights, just jump to 10. I must be missing something.

                        I may be missing something, but there is a free path from 7 to 10 as well. Just if you are wanting to take advantage of the free upgrade and have imaging rights you have to manually do the upgrade from 7 to 10 before you are allowed to image.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          Does that free path include going to each intermediate version?

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                          • brianlittlejohnB
                            brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller No, i went straight from 7 to 10 on my desktop

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
                              last edited by

                              @brianlittlejohn said:

                              @scottalanmiller No, i went straight from 7 to 10 on my desktop

                              Hmmmm... we'll need @Dashrender to explain what is his sticking point in the upgrade process.

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                              • brianlittlejohnB
                                brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @brianlittlejohn said:

                                @scottalanmiller No, i went straight from 7 to 10 on my desktop

                                Hmmmm... we'll need @Dashrender to explain what is his sticking point in the upgrade process.

                                I think his sticking point is he has to manually go to each machine initially to upgrade them.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
                                  last edited by

                                  @brianlittlejohn said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @brianlittlejohn said:

                                  @scottalanmiller No, i went straight from 7 to 10 on my desktop

                                  Hmmmm... we'll need @Dashrender to explain what is his sticking point in the upgrade process.

                                  I think his sticking point is he has to manually go to each machine initially to upgrade them.

                                  Yeah, but he was talking about having to go through each version 7 - 8 - 8.1 to get to 10 .

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                                  • brianlittlejohnB
                                    brianlittlejohn @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    Yeah, this is my current problem... I'm going to have to manually upgrade all of my win7 and win 8 to win 10... Then use my VL to roll images... What a pain!

                                    I think he just has pcs on both win 7 & 8, not that he has to go through each version.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
                                      last edited by

                                      @brianlittlejohn said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      Yeah, this is my current problem... I'm going to have to manually upgrade all of my win7 and win 8 to win 10... Then use my VL to roll images... What a pain!

                                      I think he just has pcs on both win 7 & 8, not that he has to go through each version.

                                      Oh okay.

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                                      • AVI-NetworkGuyA
                                        AVI-NetworkGuy @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @brianlittlejohn said:

                                        I remember a SW thread where Chris from Microsoft addressed this, and to upgrade your machines to 10 and image them, you have to manually run the update to 10, then go back and re-image.

                                        To get the free upgrade, you mean? Since there is a free 8.1 -> 10 path, I could see that. Is there something similar to get from 7 -> 8?

                                        It was my understanding that the free upgrade to Windows 10 did not include Enterprise. The upgrade to Enterprise still requires a VL agreement, so in that regard, nothing changed with the release of 10.

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                                        • brianlittlejohnB
                                          brianlittlejohn @AVI-NetworkGuy
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                                          @AVI-NetworkGuy Yea, you can't upgrade enterprise version, only professional

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                                          • brianlittlejohnB
                                            brianlittlejohn @brianlittlejohn
                                            last edited by

                                            @brianlittlejohn and home as well. Just to be thorough.

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