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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @mlnews
      last edited by

      @mlnews said:

      That's a potential idea although user management integration would be difficult. What kind of materials are you thinking should exist in a general purpose ML wiki?

      A general How-To that anyone who finds something interesting that they want to make sure they know where they can find it again in the future.

      As for the SAM-SD - a Linux or FreeBSD, not sure why anyone would want a Windows one.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said:

        not sure why anyone would want a Windows one.

        SMB3, for example? DFS? ReFS? Management as part of the existing Windows infrastructure.

        If you wonder why anyone would want Windows here, do you feel that Windows doesn't make sense ever or just for file servers?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          A general How-To that anyone who finds something interesting that they want to make sure they know where they can find it again in the future.

          Other than formatting difficulties, any reason that the forum does not work for that as it is? What would having another platform add to that?

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Dashrender said:

            not sure why anyone would want a Windows one.

            SMB3, for example? DFS? ReFS? Management as part of the existing Windows infrastructure.

            If you wonder why anyone would want Windows here, do you feel that Windows doesn't make sense ever or just for file servers?

            Just for remote storage - Is SMB3 really getting any traction?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              Just for remote storage - Is SMB3 really getting any traction?

              It's bit in the HyperV space for backing HyperV. It's got some benefits for normal users. I think that basically everyone on Windows file servers is on it now (that are on current Windows Servers.)

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                Search is horrible here, perhaps tagging will help with sorting things.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  Search is horrible here, perhaps tagging will help with sorting things.

                  Yes, you are very bad about tagging your posts. I have to edit every one to add tags after you post!

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    Search is horrible here, perhaps tagging will help with sorting things.

                    Yes, you are very bad about tagging your posts. I have to edit every one to add tags after you post!

                    Am I alone in this?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      Search is horrible here, perhaps tagging will help with sorting things.

                      Yes, you are very bad about tagging your posts. I have to edit every one to add tags after you post!

                      Am I alone in this?

                      Mostly.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        http://blog.nigelpoulton.com/smb-3-0-best-feature-of-windows-server-2012/

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre
                          last edited by dafyre

                          Edit: Let's try this again...
                          I set up a Windows Server 2012 File Server Role as a Failover Cluster (it uses SMB 3 for transparen't failover). The transparent failover worked beautifully. We had a server keel over and release the magic smok and our end users barely noticed the blip as everything failed over to the other server in less than 5 seconds.

                          One other benefit of a modern (Windows) file server is that Deduplication is relatively easy to set up, and on that same File Server, we were getting ~30% deduplication)

                          NB: This was the original post... skip it if you want.
                          I set up a Windows Server 2012 File Share Failover Cluster that was backed by a SAN (hush, @scottalanmiller ) and got to experience the SMB3.0 transparent failover a few times...when the file server randomly rebooted a few times. It...was... beautiful (as well as the Deduplication! ~30% savings on a 2TB).

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            Uh - maybe I'm confused - I didn't think SMB was a SAN protocol?

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender You missed the part where it was served up from a Windows 2012 File Server... This is what happens when I try to talk about too many technologies in once paragraph, lol... I'll go edit that post for clarity.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @dafyre
                                last edited by

                                @dafyre said:

                                I set up a Windows Server 2012 File Share Failover Cluster that was backed by a SAN (hush, @scottalanmiller ) and got to experience the SMB3.0 transparent failover a few times...when the file server randomly rebooted a few times. It...was... beautiful (as well as the Deduplication! ~30% savings on a 2TB).

                                What does backed by a SAN mean here?

                                So you have a Windows Server 2012 box that is sharing via SMB3.0 storage that is on a SAN - OK... the SMB3.0 is providing file services to end users?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  What does backed by a SAN mean here?

                                  SAN backing is a standard term for what is sitting "behind" the storage that you see. The backing is lower in the stack, heads are higher in the stack. So this would be a one or more Windows file server head with SAN backing.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    So you have a Windows Server 2012 box that is sharing via SMB3.0 storage that is on a SAN - OK... the SMB3.0 is providing file services to end users?

                                    Correct

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      So you have a Windows Server 2012 box that is sharing via SMB3.0 storage that is on a SAN - OK... the SMB3.0 is providing file services to end users?

                                      Yeah... Sorry for the incoherent babble I wrote. That hurt my head when I went back and re-read it... Post fixed, lol.

                                      But yeah, that's what we run our home-folder redirection on. When a server blips or just flat out dies, the share moves to another member of the cluster and the users are none-the-wiser. 8-)... It has saved our bacon a couple of times.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        The biggest question would be.... why are servers blipping?

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          The biggest question would be.... why are servers blipping?

                                          Dying Power Supply... Dying RAM.... Dying CPU... server dying of old age (these servers were ~8 years old-or better). It finally blipped it's last bleep a few months ago, lol.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @dafyre
                                            last edited by

                                            @dafyre said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            So you have a Windows Server 2012 box that is sharing via SMB3.0 storage that is on a SAN - OK... the SMB3.0 is providing file services to end users?

                                            Yeah... Sorry for the incoherent babble I wrote. That hurt my head when I went back and re-read it... Post fixed, lol.

                                            But yeah, that's what we run our home-folder redirection on. When a server blips or just flat out dies, the share moves to another member of the cluster and the users are none-the-wiser. 8-)... It has saved our bacon a couple of times.

                                            Wouldn't DFS do this as well? did SMB 3.0 solve a problem that DFS did not? - I'm asking in earnest.

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