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    • coliverC
      coliver @Alex Sage
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      @anonymous said:

      @thecreativeone91 said:
      get a phone system that can take PRI/T1 Directly

      I did think about that. What system would you suggest?

      Basically any Asterisk based system will accept a PRI card and be able to receive and send calls over it. So building your own would be viable.

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      • ?
        A Former User @IT-ADMIN
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        @IT-ADMIN said:

        @thecreativeone91 said:

        @IT-ADMIN said:

        he is referring to PRI gateway,

        A PRI Gateway isn't a requirement though. There are plenty of phone systems that will take PRIs directly. Our you can build your own with a PRI Card.

        yes of course, but i consider him having an IP PBX computer based not a specific IP PBX (avaya for example) because he mentioned before that he tried 3CX which is an IP PBX computer based

        Yes, but that still does not imply a PRI gateway is needed, that is the most expensive option and is usually not the way to go unless you need to pull the PRI over SIP to multiple phone systems/devices.

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        • IT-ADMINI
          IT-ADMIN
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          in my opinion since your budget is only 5K, you can use PSTN gateway as i described before and cancel your PRI line because you need only 4 simultaneous calls,

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          • coliverC
            coliver @IT-ADMIN
            last edited by coliver

            @IT-ADMIN said:

            in my opinion since your budget is only 5K, you can use PSTN gateway as i described before and cancel your PRI line because you need only 4 simultaneous calls,

            If you're just doing that get a SIP Trunk and save even more money. For the price of the gateway you could have two SIP trunks from different providers to fail back to if need be.

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            • IT-ADMINI
              IT-ADMIN @coliver
              last edited by

              @coliver said:

              @IT-ADMIN said:

              in my opinion since your budget is only 5K, you can use PSTN gateway as i described before and cancel your PRI line because you need only 4 simultaneous calls,

              If you're just doing that get a SIP Trunk and save even more money. For the price of the gateway you could have two SIP trunks from different providers to fail back to if need be.

              but the SIP trunk is related to his internet connection, so we need to ask him about his bandwidth

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                Alex Sage @A Former User
                last edited by Alex Sage

                @thecreativeone91 said:

                How many phones do you have? $5,000 is going to be tight.

                Might have to wait until 2016 until we get a new budget.

                50 Phones 😞

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @IT-ADMIN
                  last edited by

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  @coliver said:

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  in my opinion since your budget is only 5K, you can use PSTN gateway as i described before and cancel your PRI line because you need only 4 simultaneous calls,

                  If you're just doing that get a SIP Trunk and save even more money. For the price of the gateway you could have two SIP trunks from different providers to fail back to if need be.

                  but the SIP trunk is related to his internet connection, so we need to ask him about his bandwidth

                  For 4 simultaneous calls even ADSL would be viable (depending on his jitter rate).

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                    Alex Sage @IT-ADMIN
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                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    but the SIP trunk is related to his internet connection, so we need to ask him about his bandwidth

                    10 up 10 down

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @Alex Sage
                      last edited by

                      @anonymous said:

                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                      How many phones do you have? $5,000 is going to be tight.

                      Might have to wait until 2016 until we get a new budget.

                      50 Phones 😞

                      Yep... that is going to be all of your budget right there.... can you start the project now?

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                      • IT-ADMINI
                        IT-ADMIN @Alex Sage
                        last edited by

                        @anonymous said:

                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        but the SIP trunk is related to his internet connection, so we need to ask him about his bandwidth

                        10 up 10 down

                        so your connection is great, but keep in mind the failover, if your internet connection go down your phone system will be down also

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @Alex Sage
                          last edited by coliver

                          @anonymous said:

                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          but the SIP trunk is related to his internet connection, so we need to ask him about his bandwidth

                          10 up 10 down

                          That is what we started with. It worked well. How reliable is this connection? Does it go down often?

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                            IT-ADMIN
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                            for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

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                            • ?
                              A Former User @coliver
                              last edited by

                              @coliver said:

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              in my opinion since your budget is only 5K, you can use PSTN gateway as i described before and cancel your PRI line because you need only 4 simultaneous calls,

                              If you're just doing that get a SIP Trunk and save even more money. For the price of the gateway you could have two SIP trunks from different providers to fail back to if need be.

                              That's what I'd say. Get a SIP Trunk and be done with it. Otherwise get a PRI Card.

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                              • ?
                                A Former User @IT-ADMIN
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                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                in my opinion since your budget is only 5K, you can use PSTN gateway as i described before and cancel your PRI line because you need only 4 simultaneous calls,

                                A Quality FXO gateway will cost as much as a PRI card.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @IT-ADMIN
                                  last edited by

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

                                  Is the cost of being down equal to the yearly cost of a PRI? I don't know that would be a question for @anonymous.

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @A Former User
                                    last edited by

                                    @thecreativeone91 said:

                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    in my opinion since your budget is only 5K, you can use PSTN gateway as i described before and cancel your PRI line because you need only 4 simultaneous calls,

                                    A Quality FXO gateway will cost as much as a PRI card.

                                    If I remember correctly you can also get FXO cards that will do the same thing. Still probably around the same price.

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User @IT-ADMIN
                                      last edited by A Former User

                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      @anonymous said:

                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      but the SIP trunk is related to his internet connection, so we need to ask him about his bandwidth

                                      10 up 10 down

                                      so your connection is great, but keep in mind the failover, if your internet connection go down your phone system will be down also

                                      And if your PRI provider goes down you go down. we have 2,000+ simultaneous calls normally and are almost all SIP based at least on the upstream side, not all desk phones are VoIP yet. SIP doesn't stop you from having fail over.

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                                        IT-ADMIN @coliver
                                        last edited by

                                        @coliver said:

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

                                        Is the cost of being down equal to the yearly cost of a PRI? I don't know that would be a question for @anonymous.

                                        yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @IT-ADMIN
                                          last edited by

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

                                          Is the cost of being down equal to the yearly cost of a PRI? I don't know that would be a question for @anonymous.

                                          yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

                                          Got it... are you in an area with a single ISP?

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                                          • ?
                                            A Former User @IT-ADMIN
                                            last edited by

                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

                                            You can get failover SIP connections and use two internet connections. We even failover our DIDs.

                                            The cost is still cheaper than PRIs.

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