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    Unitrends Redefines "Free" Virtual Backup

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    • DominicaD
      Dominica @coliver
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      @coliver Okay, that's what I was thinking it probably meant, but I'm not always up on the lingo. Like every time @scottalanmiller says "ack" to me I think he's complaining, but he's actually using it as "acknowledge".

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      • ?
        A Former User @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @Dashrender said:

        Agreed, I have client that I will be able to move them away from a secondary machine they currently use to backup their VM host with Veeam. Now to see how it handles rotating NAS storage devices.

        In what manner do you wish to rotate them? It's not common to rotate NAS.

        You could Archive with an external Device. But, not sure how you'd do that with a NAS. Too many variable to keep backups reliable there.

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          A Former User @Dominica
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          @Dominica said:

          Like every time @scottalanmiller says "ack" to me I think he's complaining, but he's actually using it as "acknowledge".

          I would probably think that too.

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          • coliverC
            coliver @Dominica
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            @Dominica said:

            @coliver Okay, that's what I was thinking it probably meant, but I'm not always up on the lingo. Like every time @scottalanmiller says "ack" to me I think he's complaining, but he's actually using it as "acknowledge".

            I think @scottalanmiller is unique there... I've never heard anyone use "ack" outside of a programming language, CLI, or TCP handshake.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @coliver
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              @coliver said:

              I think @scottalanmiller is unique there... I've never heard anyone use "ack" outside of a programming language, CLI, or TCP handshake.

              I didn't make it up. I learned it from company after company that used it extensively.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                I hear it most with people who get paged a lot and need to "ack" the alert.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  Agreed, I have client that I will be able to move them away from a secondary machine they currently use to backup their VM host with Veeam. Now to see how it handles rotating NAS storage devices.

                  In what manner do you wish to rotate them? It's not common to rotate NAS.

                  My client refuses to push backups to an offsite over the internet. The cheapest option we found for them 4 years ago was Veeam and several single drive NASs. Each one assigned to a day of the week. They would be rotated offsite daily. It's worked well enough.

                  I've really tried to get them to allow a cloud, or even VPN to the owners home based backup (replication actually) of the local backups, but they just don't 'trust the internet.' Even though they use the internet for email and nearly everything else. I stopped fighting them and just found them a solution.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @Dominica
                    last edited by

                    @Dominica said:

                    @coliver Okay, that's what I was thinking it probably meant, but I'm not always up on the lingo. Like every time @scottalanmiller says "ack" to me I think he's complaining, but he's actually using it as "acknowledge".

                    Now that's just funny!

                    But it only works because you're techie too, and even then it doesn't really sound like it works well 😉

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Always works at the office 🙂

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                      • DominicaD
                        Dominica @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said:

                        I stopped fighting them and just found them a solution.

                        This is a mark of IT maturity. You can't always convince a client to follow your recommendations, and so the "right" way is sometimes just doing what the client wants.

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                        • ?
                          A Former User @Dominica
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                          @Dominica said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          I stopped fighting them and just found them a solution.

                          This is a mark of IT maturity. You can't always convince a client to follow your recommendations, and so the "right" way is sometimes just doing what the client wants.

                          Are you saying @scottalanmiller isn't mature because he doesn't like to give up? 😉

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                            @thecreativeone91 she's just saying I'm not mature. No specific reason.

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                            • ?
                              A Former User
                              last edited by A Former User

                              Well, I've downloaded it twice just incase it was corrupt.

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                              No error information on unitrends side, nothing useful in the ESXi logs. Maybe it doesn't work on FreeESXi 6.0 for somereason.

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                              • ?
                                A Former User
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                                I'm totally tempted to move to Hyper-V just for this.

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                                • ?
                                  A Former User
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                                  Yep. This will not work on FreeESXi you need a licensed version. It tries to used a licesned feature called vFlash which is why it fails.

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                                  • Minion QueenM
                                    Minion Queen Banned
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                                    Because it is agentless

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
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                                      @Minion-Queen said:

                                      Because it is agentless

                                      That's different. This is about the deployment, not the backing up.

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                                      • JaguarJ
                                        Jaguar @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender No rotating NAS storage for backup storage, but archiving still works fine.

                                        The storage devices are now 'stateless' meaning that if the VM is lost the data can be recovered now (a personal battle I fought for several years) so while the storage device cannot be added and removed nimbly bimbly, it does allow people to have 'split' configurations now, utilizing fast DAS for the OS, and slower storage for the backup storage, without worries about them getting desync'd. Allows a lot more flexibility.

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                                        • JaguarJ
                                          Jaguar @A Former User
                                          last edited by

                                          @thecreativeone91 Yup, HTML5 🙂

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                                          • JaguarJ
                                            Jaguar @A Former User
                                            last edited by

                                            @thecreativeone91 ESXi 6 has a major flaw right now, so I wouldn't recommend using it, also, ESXi free is not supported AT ALL for free, ONLY licensed vSphere.

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