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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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      @thanksajdotcom said:

      Unfortunately, for the server I need to start, it's $40/month, which is just a bit more than I can swing right now. Looks like I'm just going to have to go back to hosting it myself.

      Windows hosting will never be cheap.

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      • thanksajdotcomT
        thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @thanksajdotcom said:

        Unfortunately, for the server I need to start, it's $40/month, which is just a bit more than I can swing right now. Looks like I'm just going to have to go back to hosting it myself.

        Windows hosting will never be cheap.

        I'm not talking Windows hosting. I'm talking Linux hosting. Ideally I'd like to do the 8GB RAM and 4 core CPU for $80/month. Then I'd just host my LAMP server and second Plex server on the same VM. Now the most ideal one for that setup would be the $160/month plan. My web server could go on a $40/month server and my second Plex server on the $80/month server, but I just don't have that level of disposable income right now...

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          A Former User @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          Legal Windows hosting will never be cheap.

          FTFY

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
            last edited by

            @thanksajdotcom said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @thanksajdotcom said:

            Unfortunately, for the server I need to start, it's $40/month, which is just a bit more than I can swing right now. Looks like I'm just going to have to go back to hosting it myself.

            Windows hosting will never be cheap.

            I'm not talking Windows hosting. I'm talking Linux hosting. Ideally I'd like to do the 8GB RAM and 4 core CPU for $80/month. Then I'd just host my LAMP server and second Plex server on the same VM. Now the most ideal one for that setup would be the $160/month plan. My web server could go on a $40/month server and my second Plex server on the $80/month server, but I just don't have that level of disposable income right now...

            What the heck are you doing that requires that kind of CPU and memory!! Holy cow.

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            • ?
              A Former User @thanksajdotcom
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              @thanksajdotcom said:

              I'm not talking Windows hosting. I'm talking Linux hosting. Ideally I'd like to do the 8GB RAM and 4 core CPU for $80/month. Then I'd just host my LAMP server and second Plex server on the same VM. Now the most ideal one for that setup would be the $160/month plan. My web server could go on a $40/month server and my second Plex server on the $80/month server, but I just don't have that level of disposable income right now...

              Why do you need that much ram? Plex isn't really anything more than a file server/web server on the server side (how many times can I say server).

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              • thanksajdotcomT
                thanksajdotcom @A Former User
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                @thecreativeone91 said:

                @thanksajdotcom said:

                I'm not talking Windows hosting. I'm talking Linux hosting. Ideally I'd like to do the 8GB RAM and 4 core CPU for $80/month. Then I'd just host my LAMP server and second Plex server on the same VM. Now the most ideal one for that setup would be the $160/month plan. My web server could go on a $40/month server and my second Plex server on the $80/month server, but I just don't have that level of disposable income right now...

                Why do you need that much ram? Plex isn't really anything more than a file server/web server on the server side (how many times can I say server).

                Plex handles the streaming of media, whether that be audio or video. For larger videos, it can be quite system intensive.

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                • thanksajdotcomT
                  thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @thanksajdotcom said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @thanksajdotcom said:

                  Unfortunately, for the server I need to start, it's $40/month, which is just a bit more than I can swing right now. Looks like I'm just going to have to go back to hosting it myself.

                  Windows hosting will never be cheap.

                  I'm not talking Windows hosting. I'm talking Linux hosting. Ideally I'd like to do the 8GB RAM and 4 core CPU for $80/month. Then I'd just host my LAMP server and second Plex server on the same VM. Now the most ideal one for that setup would be the $160/month plan. My web server could go on a $40/month server and my second Plex server on the $80/month server, but I just don't have that level of disposable income right now...

                  What the heck are you doing that requires that kind of CPU and memory!! Holy cow.

                  My web server is usually using 2-3GB of RAM at least. I'm pretty sure it's due to the caching.

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                    A Former User @thanksajdotcom
                    last edited by A Former User

                    @thanksajdotcom said:

                    Plex handles the streaming of media, whether that be audio or video. For larger videos, it can be quite system intensive.

                    It shouldn't be server side. Are you pre-transcoding your files? other wise it has to transcode everytime you play it. If you transcode everything before you put in on the server 512MB-1GB would be more than enough.

                    Also the database might just be ballooning to fill up as much ram as you give it.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                      @thanksajdotcom said:

                      My web server is usually using 2-3GB of RAM at least. I'm pretty sure it's due to the caching.

                      Why would you need 8GB then?

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                      • thanksajdotcomT
                        thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @thanksajdotcom said:

                        My web server is usually using 2-3GB of RAM at least. I'm pretty sure it's due to the caching.

                        Why would you need 8GB then?

                        That'd be for Plex. Or I might be able to make Plex and my web server work on the same VM. But I think that could cause some issues.

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                        • thanksajdotcomT
                          thanksajdotcom @A Former User
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                          @thecreativeone91 said:

                          @thanksajdotcom said:

                          Plex handles the streaming of media, whether that be audio or video. For larger videos, it can be quite system intensive.

                          It shouldn't be server side. Are you pre-transcoding your files? other wise it has to transcode everytime you play it. If you transcode everything before you put in on the server 512MB-1GB would be more than enough.

                          Also the database might just be ballooning to fill up as much ram as you give it.

                          How would I pre-transcode them? I'm not sure what you mean by that...

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                          • IRJI
                            IRJ
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                            Host your own boxes if you need that kind of hardware. Still better uptime than CloudatCost

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                            • ?
                              A Former User
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                              Plex transcodes the original media on the fly if you don't have them in the format for the device you are watching from: https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/200250377-Transcoding-Media. Direct Play uses almost no resource, DirectStream uses a bit. Transcoding uses a lot of resources.

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                              • thanksajdotcomT
                                thanksajdotcom @IRJ
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                                @IRJ said:

                                Host your own boxes if you need that kind of hardware. Still better uptime than CloudatCost

                                True dat...

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                                • thanksajdotcomT
                                  thanksajdotcom @A Former User
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                                  @thecreativeone91 said:

                                  Plex transcodes the original media on the fly if you don't have them in the format for the device you are watching from: https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/200250377-Transcoding-Media. Direct Play uses almost no resource, DirectStream uses a bit. Transcoding uses a lot of resources.

                                  My movies are mostly .avi and my TV shows are mostly .mkv and .mp4. The majority are .mkv.

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                                  • ?
                                    A Former User @thanksajdotcom
                                    last edited by A Former User

                                    @thanksajdotcom said:

                                    My movies are mostly .avi and my TV shows are mostly .mkv and .mp4. The majority are .mkv.

                                    Those are containers, not codec formats. Doesn't really mean much.

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User @thanksajdotcom
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                                      @thanksajdotcom said:

                                      My movies are mostly .avi and my TV shows are mostly .mkv and .mp4. The majority are .mkv.

                                      Do you legally own any of them?

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                                      • thanksajdotcomT
                                        thanksajdotcom @A Former User
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                                        @Aaron-Studer said:

                                        @thanksajdotcom said:

                                        My movies are mostly .avi and my TV shows are mostly .mkv and .mp4. The majority are .mkv.

                                        Do you legally own any of them?

                                        Yes.

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                                        • gjacobseG
                                          gjacobse
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                                          Better Understanding....

                                          AJ - Just for my own understanding - why upload movies to a remote site / server? I watch a movie once,.. and put it away.. Even with my Netflix account, I watch, and move on.

                                          What is the benefit of taking a movie you own on DVD / Blue Ray, ripping it,.. uploading it to a hosted server, so you can watch it later.

                                          You can build / buy your own wireless cloud device, rip local, and seemingly would be faster and more reliable. Hosting it on a server 3,000 miles away (and with CloudatCost; in another country most likely) seems resource intensive.

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                                          • thanksajdotcomT
                                            thanksajdotcom @gjacobse
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                                            @g.jacobse said:

                                            Better Understanding....

                                            AJ - Just for my own understanding - why upload movies to a remote site / server? I watch a movie once,.. and put it away.. Even with my Netflix account, I watch, and move on.

                                            What is the benefit of taking a movie you own on DVD / Blue Ray, ripping it,.. uploading it to a hosted server, so you can watch it later.

                                            You can build / buy your own wireless cloud device, rip local, and seemingly would be faster and more reliable. Hosting it on a server 3,000 miles away (and with CloudatCost; in another country most likely) seems resource intensive.

                                            I host the files locally and connect the shares to the remote server.

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