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    • momurdaM
      momurda @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller Not directly, but youll be taxed when convert it to real money.
      Also at current rate and difficulty, you need to be outputting thousands of GH/s to make BTC faster than the cost of electricity to make them.

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      • RojoLocoR
        RojoLoco @momurda
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        @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

        @scottalanmiller Not directly, but youll be taxed when convert it to real money.
        Also at current rate and difficulty, you need to be outputting thousands of GH/s to make BTC faster than the cost of electricity to make them.

        Unless you choose some other crypto currency... Oh wait, I'm supposed to be BOINCing for science, right???

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @momurda
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          @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @scottalanmiller Not directly, but youll be taxed when convert it to real money.

          Also very hard to do as you'll just convert it to anything you want, then into "real" money.

          Remember this is something that has existed since the country was founded and whole US communities live on alternative currencies and have for decades or more. The Ithaca Dollar, for example. Taxing currency transactions has never been accepted as an activity and would have impacts that are really, really broad.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @momurda
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            @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

            Also at current rate and difficulty, you need to be outputting thousands of GH/s to make BTC faster than the cost of electricity to make them.

            That's why I don't do it. It's generally a lost cause.

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            • momurdaM
              momurda @RojoLoco
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              @rojoloco Yes you should be.
              But you can cash out BTC to whatever other fake currency you want. As soon as it is real money you pay your cut, either right then or on April 15. You can not do this, but eventually TaxMan notices, then he adds in all sorts of penalties and late fees. On top of the money you lost creating your fake money.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @momurda
                last edited by

                @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @rojoloco Yes you should be.
                But you can cash out BTC to whatever other fake currency you want. As soon as it is real money you pay your cut, either right then or on April 15. You can not do this, but eventually TaxMan notices, then he adds in all sorts of penalties and late fees. On top of the money you lost creating your fake money.

                Just standard FOREX taxation.

                https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/09/forex-taxation-basics.asp

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                • RojoLocoR
                  RojoLoco @momurda
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                  @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @rojoloco Yes you should be.
                  But you can cash out BTC to whatever other fake currency you want. As soon as it is real money you pay your cut, either right then or on April 15. You can not do this, but eventually TaxMan notices, then he adds in all sorts of penalties and late fees. On top of the money you lost creating your fake money.

                  Oh noes, will the taxman come get me over the taxes on what will equate to a pack of smokes worth of income??? I have many micro-income generating things going on, and none are taxable in the realistic, real world. But I'd BOINC for science if they agree to send me a carton of smokes, a bottle of liquor, or maybe a few grams of herbal medicine.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    Russia posts video game screenshot as 'proof' of US helping IS
                    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41991012

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                    • black3dynamiteB
                      black3dynamite
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                      https://solus-project.com/2017/11/12/this-week-in-solus-install-48/

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                        @black3dynamite said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        https://solus-project.com/2017/11/12/this-week-in-solus-install-48/

                        I love Solus, but their unique package manager is such a problem.

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                        • black3dynamiteB
                          black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          @black3dynamite said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          https://solus-project.com/2017/11/12/this-week-in-solus-install-48/

                          I love Solus, but their unique package manager is such a problem.

                          Isn't that the reason for them to adopt snap?

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre @momurda
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                            @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            You cant really make money doing this unless you have a farm of gpus to do this stuff with. 2 ati/NVidia somethings aren't going to do squat by the time this is regulated to worthlessness.
                            Especially if you live somewhere where power is more than 8c/kwh.

                            A lot of it depends on the crypto curency you are after. I've made $4 over roughly 2 week. in Litecoin just using the web browser. No, I won't get rich with it, but that puts a few bucks in my Paypal account for when Steam Sales roll around. 😄

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @dafyre
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                              @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              You cant really make money doing this unless you have a farm of gpus to do this stuff with. 2 ati/NVidia somethings aren't going to do squat by the time this is regulated to worthlessness.
                              Especially if you live somewhere where power is more than 8c/kwh.

                              A lot of it depends on the crypto curency you are after. I've made $4 over roughly 2 week. in Litecoin just using the web browser. No, I won't get rich with it, but that puts a few bucks in my Paypal account for when Steam Sales roll around. 😄

                              Is that net or gross? How much does it cost to run those machines?

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @coliver
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                                @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                You cant really make money doing this unless you have a farm of gpus to do this stuff with. 2 ati/NVidia somethings aren't going to do squat by the time this is regulated to worthlessness.
                                Especially if you live somewhere where power is more than 8c/kwh.

                                A lot of it depends on the crypto curency you are after. I've made $4 over roughly 2 week. in Litecoin just using the web browser. No, I won't get rich with it, but that puts a few bucks in my Paypal account for when Steam Sales roll around. 😄

                                Is that net or gross? How much does it cost to run those machines?

                                I'm only into my first month of it. But these are machines that run all the time anyhow, so I don't expect my power bill to go up any.

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1 @dafyre
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                                  @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  You cant really make money doing this unless you have a farm of gpus to do this stuff with. 2 ati/NVidia somethings aren't going to do squat by the time this is regulated to worthlessness.
                                  Especially if you live somewhere where power is more than 8c/kwh.

                                  A lot of it depends on the crypto curency you are after. I've made $4 over roughly 2 week. in Litecoin just using the web browser. No, I won't get rich with it, but that puts a few bucks in my Paypal account for when Steam Sales roll around. 😄

                                  Is that net or gross? How much does it cost to run those machines?

                                  I'm only into my first month of it. But these are machines that run all the time anyhow, so I don't expect my power bill to go up any.

                                  Prepare for a shock then. Back when mining Bitcoin on a CPU+GPU still made sense I hooked my gaming desktop into a pool and mined for around 3 months. I ended up with 3 bitcoin, but also had a massive power bill each month. The gaming desktop was running flat out 100% all the time instead of sleeping. We're talking pulling a continuous 450 watts instead of 20 watts, you're power bill will feel it. Even if we're only talking about higher CPU usage, it takes more power.

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre @travisdh1
                                    last edited by

                                    @travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    You cant really make money doing this unless you have a farm of gpus to do this stuff with. 2 ati/NVidia somethings aren't going to do squat by the time this is regulated to worthlessness.
                                    Especially if you live somewhere where power is more than 8c/kwh.

                                    A lot of it depends on the crypto curency you are after. I've made $4 over roughly 2 week. in Litecoin just using the web browser. No, I won't get rich with it, but that puts a few bucks in my Paypal account for when Steam Sales roll around. 😄

                                    Is that net or gross? How much does it cost to run those machines?

                                    I'm only into my first month of it. But these are machines that run all the time anyhow, so I don't expect my power bill to go up any.

                                    Prepare for a shock then. Back when mining Bitcoin on a CPU+GPU still made sense I hooked my gaming desktop into a pool and mined for around 3 months. I ended up with 3 bitcoin, but also had a massive power bill each month. The gaming desktop was running flat out 100% all the time instead of sleeping. We're talking pulling a continuous 450 watts instead of 20 watts, you're power bill will feel it. Even if we're only talking about higher CPU usage, it takes more power.

                                    I hope you kept those Bitcoins... I'm relatively certain that $18k is more than your power bill went up. 🙂

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @dafyre
                                      last edited by

                                      @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      You cant really make money doing this unless you have a farm of gpus to do this stuff with. 2 ati/NVidia somethings aren't going to do squat by the time this is regulated to worthlessness.
                                      Especially if you live somewhere where power is more than 8c/kwh.

                                      A lot of it depends on the crypto curency you are after. I've made $4 over roughly 2 week. in Litecoin just using the web browser. No, I won't get rich with it, but that puts a few bucks in my Paypal account for when Steam Sales roll around. 😄

                                      Is that net or gross? How much does it cost to run those machines?

                                      I'm only into my first month of it. But these are machines that run all the time anyhow, so I don't expect my power bill to go up any.

                                      Prepare for a shock then. Back when mining Bitcoin on a CPU+GPU still made sense I hooked my gaming desktop into a pool and mined for around 3 months. I ended up with 3 bitcoin, but also had a massive power bill each month. The gaming desktop was running flat out 100% all the time instead of sleeping. We're talking pulling a continuous 450 watts instead of 20 watts, you're power bill will feel it. Even if we're only talking about higher CPU usage, it takes more power.

                                      I hope you kept those Bitcoins... I'm relatively certain that $18k is more than your power bill went up. 🙂

                                      I ended up building a new gaming rig when they went up to around $4k. Yeah, I wish I would've saved them now as well.

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre @travisdh1
                                        last edited by

                                        @travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        You cant really make money doing this unless you have a farm of gpus to do this stuff with. 2 ati/NVidia somethings aren't going to do squat by the time this is regulated to worthlessness.
                                        Especially if you live somewhere where power is more than 8c/kwh.

                                        A lot of it depends on the crypto curency you are after. I've made $4 over roughly 2 week. in Litecoin just using the web browser. No, I won't get rich with it, but that puts a few bucks in my Paypal account for when Steam Sales roll around. 😄

                                        Is that net or gross? How much does it cost to run those machines?

                                        I'm only into my first month of it. But these are machines that run all the time anyhow, so I don't expect my power bill to go up any.

                                        Prepare for a shock then. Back when mining Bitcoin on a CPU+GPU still made sense I hooked my gaming desktop into a pool and mined for around 3 months. I ended up with 3 bitcoin, but also had a massive power bill each month. The gaming desktop was running flat out 100% all the time instead of sleeping. We're talking pulling a continuous 450 watts instead of 20 watts, you're power bill will feel it. Even if we're only talking about higher CPU usage, it takes more power.

                                        I hope you kept those Bitcoins... I'm relatively certain that $18k is more than your power bill went up. 🙂

                                        I ended up building a new gaming rig when they went up to around $4k. Yeah, I wish I would've saved them now as well.

                                        Well... If you still have the gaming rig...

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                          last edited by

                                          @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @travisdh1 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          You cant really make money doing this unless you have a farm of gpus to do this stuff with. 2 ati/NVidia somethings aren't going to do squat by the time this is regulated to worthlessness.
                                          Especially if you live somewhere where power is more than 8c/kwh.

                                          A lot of it depends on the crypto curency you are after. I've made $4 over roughly 2 week. in Litecoin just using the web browser. No, I won't get rich with it, but that puts a few bucks in my Paypal account for when Steam Sales roll around. 😄

                                          Is that net or gross? How much does it cost to run those machines?

                                          I'm only into my first month of it. But these are machines that run all the time anyhow, so I don't expect my power bill to go up any.

                                          Prepare for a shock then. Back when mining Bitcoin on a CPU+GPU still made sense I hooked my gaming desktop into a pool and mined for around 3 months. I ended up with 3 bitcoin, but also had a massive power bill each month. The gaming desktop was running flat out 100% all the time instead of sleeping. We're talking pulling a continuous 450 watts instead of 20 watts, you're power bill will feel it. Even if we're only talking about higher CPU usage, it takes more power.

                                          I hope you kept those Bitcoins... I'm relatively certain that $18k is more than your power bill went up. 🙂

                                          I ended up building a new gaming rig when they went up to around $4k. Yeah, I wish I would've saved them now as well.

                                          Well... If you still have the gaming rig...

                                          Excellent point.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            Australian minister blames hackers over Twitter porn 'like'
                                            http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-42005961

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