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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      So does this mean that Comcast and the rest can no longer restrict the throughput on bittorrent?

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      • StrongBadS
        StrongBad
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        Correct, at least for the moment.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @Dashrender
          last edited by coliver

          @Dashrender said:

          So does this mean that Comcast and the rest can no longer restrict the throughput on bittorrent?

          When the ruling goes into effect. Which may be anywhere from 3 weeks to 90 days (or more). It seems that the commission has a set period of time where they can add additional comments to the ruling.

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          • MattSpellerM
            MattSpeller
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            From what I've read it'll take a year or two before they get all the lawsuits sorted out

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @MattSpeller
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              @MattSpeller said:

              From what I've read it'll take a year or two before they get all the lawsuits sorted out

              But it will be up to judges sooner than that if the law is held or allowed to be applied while the lawsuits flow.

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              • coliverC
                coliver @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said:

                @MattSpeller said:

                From what I've read it'll take a year or two before they get all the lawsuits sorted out

                But it will be up to judges sooner than that if the law is held or allowed to be applied while the lawsuits flow.

                This seems to be what most I see most. The ruling will be applied despite ongoing lawsuits, when/if lawsuits succeed then the ruling will be amended/removed.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @coliver
                  last edited by

                  This is the part of things that is wrong and why I really do not like them applying Title II.
                  Yes we need something here, but Title II itself is old and outdated.

                  Of course with the do nothing political mindset that we have running the U.S. maybe this is the only thing that could get put in place.

                  In another expansion of its authority, the agency claimed power to judge whether Internet service providers offer fair terms for accepting Web traffic from the likes of video streamer Netflix and data shippers such as Cogent Communications Holdings Inc. and Level 3 Communications Inc.

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                    doyle.jack @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender According to Mark Cuban, it means that QVC can't be on Comcast any more. The logic escapes me so far.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @doyle.jack
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                      @doyle.jack said:

                      @Dashrender According to Mark Cuban, it means that QVC can't be on Comcast any more. The logic escapes me so far.

                      Um.... okay, interesting.

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                        doyle.jack @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Um.... okay, interesting.

                        Yeah, he says it in this video: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/02/26/cuban-fcc-net-regs-will-spill-over-tv-as-you-know-it-is-over/

                        I'm still trying to comprehend the silliness of his comments.

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                        • MattSpellerM
                          MattSpeller @doyle.jack
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                          @doyle.jack said:

                          @Dashrender According to Mark Cuban, it means that QVC can't be on Comcast any more.

                          And nothing of value would be lost there.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @doyle.jack
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                            @doyle.jack said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Um.... okay, interesting.

                            Yeah, he says it in this video: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/02/26/cuban-fcc-net-regs-will-spill-over-tv-as-you-know-it-is-over/

                            I'm still trying to comprehend the silliness of his comments.

                            Ah, you are misreading this. I read this and the only bit I got was "Mark Cuban is a moron and doesn't know the difference between a LAN and the Internet and should stop talking."

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                              doyle.jack @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Ah, you are misreading this. I read this and the only bit I got was "Mark Cuban is a moron and doesn't know the difference between a LAN and the Internet and should stop talking."

                              I actually didn't read anything. I just watched the video and listened to the dummy talk.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @doyle.jack
                                last edited by

                                @doyle.jack said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                Ah, you are misreading this. I read this and the only bit I got was "Mark Cuban is a moron and doesn't know the difference between a LAN and the Internet and should stop talking."

                                I actually didn't read anything. I just watched the video and listened to the dummy talk.

                                I feel sorry for you.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
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                                  I'm trying to follow Mark's logic - he's saying that the cable companies will have to change how they deliver cable channels based on this ruling? is that where QVC comes into the conversation?

                                  What does a dedicated service for specific channels have to do with an open service like access to the internet? They aren't the same at all. In the case of Cable, you are paying a fee for access to specific channels, with an ISP you're paying for access to this thing called the internet, with access to the nearly infinitely different sites on it, many of which come and go at a drop of a hat.

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                                  • IRJI
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                                    So basically he is saying that people will only get shows that you want to watch and not pay for shows you don't want to watch. What is the problem?

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                                    • IRJI
                                      IRJ
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                                      Also does anybody younger than 50 actually watch QVC?

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                                      • IRJI
                                        IRJ
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                                        I agree with Mark about QVC going away. They cannot compete on the internet when you are a click away from amazon, ebay, or many other sites that have low, low prices.

                                        That being said, I don't have a problem with QVC going away. I understand he probably does since its a big money maker for him. Boohoo a billionaire loses a source of income.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Let's hope that Net Neutrality makes Mark Cuban go away.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
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                                            I'm trying to figure out how we go from having this managed service Cable TV to a forced condition where TV shows have to delivered no different than say, Youtube? What's going to force this change? simply because they are all digital bits? I call BS.

                                            I buy a pipe to a dedicated service - that service is called cable, and that service does not currently allow me to choose the channels I want. Some how making the internet Title II makes the dedicated connection between my house and my cable provider subject to the Open Internet laws? Please explain that to me. I think this is where Scott got the LAN vs Internet comment before. Your connection to a cable provider for Cable TV is like a LAN, it's all contained, it has nothing to do with the internet. And then there is the internet where I have access to anything anyone publishes to it.

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