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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      I stood up a new Turnkey MediaWiki on Friday and I'm having some trouble.

      I'm trying to paste our company handbook into a page. Unfortunately it's not obeying carriage returns. I pasted the text from Word into notepad first to ensure any encoding was stripped out before pasting it into the wiki page, but that does not seam to matter.

      I paste something like:
      3 COMPENSATION POLICIES .................................................................................. 3-1
      Classifications of Employment .......................................................................... 3-1
      Overtime ........................................................................................................... 3-2

      and it shows up fine in edit mode, but once I save it, the lines are all merged together in a run on. I can 'fix' it by putting an additional carriage return in, but that doesn't look very good.

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      • Minion QueenM
        Minion Queen Banned
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller will be able to help you with this.

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          Texkonc
          last edited by

          We use Media Wiki from a company we purchased and had some trouble getting it running. It is slow as dirt.
          Internally we using Moing Moing and it is 10x better for us.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @Texkonc
            last edited by

            @Texkonc it's funny that you should mention it's slow... you're right, it is! though I'm not throwing much in the way of resources at it.

            If I'm going to change to something else - I need to do it ASAP.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              If you just put text into MediaWiki, or any wiki really, the wiki markup will run it all together. You have to select your formatting if you want it to do something else. What you want is to tell MediaWiki that the text is "pre-formated". Otherwise you are, by default, telling it that it is unformatted and without further instructions the wiki will mash everything together. Remember a Wiki is like writing a raw HTML page, it is not a graphical editor. It uses Markdown (or Wiki Markup) which is much easier than HTML but is still a markup language and if you don't put in the markup, you are telling it to strip whitespace.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                Pretty much any wiki will give you the same results. What you are looking for might be something more like OneNote. You want a rich text editing experience, not wiki markdown.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  OneNote? I think they can be shared, but I do want a website.

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                  • Minion QueenM
                    Minion Queen Banned
                    last edited by

                    You can share OneNote. SharePoint is a great place for sharing the OneNote files however 🙂

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      OneNote? I think they can be shared, but I do want a website.

                      I think getting used to how to use a wiki is the easiest answer. That's what pretty much the entire industry does today. Sharepoint, to the best of my knowledge, has the most robust editing facilities but also the most problematic for posting code. MediaWiki is better but with a little more effort.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        OneNote? I think they can be shared, but I do want a website.

                        With certain Sharepoint licenses, OneNote will turn into a website too. That is how we use OneNote with our SharePoint Enterprise via Office 365. We can use the OneNote app, the OneNote web app or the wiki in Sharepoint all for different effects.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          OK, I think part of my problem is that I'm using the Turnkey version of MediaWiki. I looked at the MediaWiki page yesterday and the editing tools are very different from the ones in the Turnkey version.

                          Since I'm a complete NOOB on Linux I was/am looking for something I could get up and running quickly, Turnkey fit the bill, but is starting to have some shortcomings.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @Minion Queen
                            last edited by

                            @Minion-Queen said:

                            You can share OneNote. SharePoint is a great place for sharing the OneNote files however 🙂

                            Funny how we keep coming back to Sharepoint lol

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                            • Minion QueenM
                              Minion Queen Banned
                              last edited by

                              @dashrender For what you said you are looking for it is the Easiest to use and have easy for people access as most people are very used to the Microsoft architecture.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                I understand, but since we're not willing to pay for it it's kinda not an option. I know that the Sharepoint Essentials version is out there, but the last time I install it, I was completely confused.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @Minion-Queen said:

                                  You can share OneNote. SharePoint is a great place for sharing the OneNote files however 🙂

                                  Funny how we keep coming back to Sharepoint lol

                                  It is a great tool.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    I understand, but since we're not willing to pay for it it's kinda not an option. I know that the Sharepoint Essentials version is out there, but the last time I install it, I was completely confused.

                                    Sharepoint's power makes it have a learning curve. The free is actually less confusing than enterprise.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      We started on SP in 2003. Left it, tried some wiki products and other things. But by 2010 we came back to SP. It had matured to a point that it was the best and by 2013 it was really rocking. Getting it hosted made it even better.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Oddly enough. I've actually been doing a bit of MediaWiki support this week.

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                                        • DominicaD
                                          Dominica
                                          last edited by

                                          It's not that difficult to get MW to do what you want, though. You just need to get used to it.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            OK, I think part of my problem is that I'm using the Turnkey version of MediaWiki. I looked at the MediaWiki page yesterday and the editing tools are very different from the ones in the Turnkey version.

                                            Since I'm a complete NOOB on Linux I was/am looking for something I could get up and running quickly, Turnkey fit the bill, but is starting to have some shortcomings.

                                            Any comments on my using turnkey MW versus installing it on say CentOS?

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