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    • WrCombsW
      WrCombs @EddieJennings
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      @EddieJennings helped jog up a memory , eh? lol

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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        @WrCombs said in Any outlook guru's here?:

        https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/all/outlook-365-categories-missing/f6a128bb-33af-40e8-8b08-b38fab57603c

        They use IMAP ; categories aren't supported via this link from microsoft

        It's pretty bad to use Outlook under any circumstance. But using it as an IMAP client is.... W. T. A. F.??

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          scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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          @WrCombs said in Any outlook guru's here?:

          @EddieJennings said in Any outlook guru's here?:

          @WrCombs said in Any outlook guru's here?:

          https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/all/outlook-365-categories-missing/f6a128bb-33af-40e8-8b08-b38fab57603c

          They use IMAP ; categories aren't supported via this link from microsoft

          Still? I remember that being a thing years ago when I moved users off of POP to IMAP. It seemed like the world ended when categories stopped working 😛

          so this has been an issue thing for a while?

          Outlook has long, LONG been flaky with non-MAPI protocols. No serious users would ever do it, so there's really no reason for MS to support those things. THey are really only there as a data transfer tool, never for use for serious email (when Outlook is used.)

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            WrCombs
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            the saga continues - they had a meeting today - google meets meeting , and they can't access it from outlook - my guess is that it's something similar to the above - told them to copy the url below the "link" and paste it in the web browser to see if it would go for the meeting-

            anyone seen this before?

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            • gjacobseG
              gjacobse @WrCombs
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              @WrCombs said in Any outlook guru's here?:

              the saga continues - they had a meeting today - google meets meeting , and they can't access it from outlook - my guess is that it's something similar to the above - told them to copy the url below the "link" and paste it in the web browser to see if it would go for the meeting-

              anyone seen this before?

              Users being stupid? Yes daily.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @WrCombs
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                @WrCombs said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                the saga continues - they had a meeting today - google meets meeting , and they can't access it from outlook - my guess is that it's something similar to the above - told them to copy the url below the "link" and paste it in the web browser to see if it would go for the meeting-

                anyone seen this before?

                You haven't told us where the problem is?
                Also what version of Outlook? This probably doesn't matter as much, but I'm curious how old of a version they are using.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @WrCombs
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                  @WrCombs said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                  the saga continues - they had a meeting today - google meets meeting , and they can't access it from outlook - my guess is that it's something similar to the above - told them to copy the url below the "link" and paste it in the web browser to see if it would go for the meeting-

                  anyone seen this before?

                  I'm assuming they click the link and either nothing happens or the browser opens and goes to a different website?

                  Do any links in Outlook emails work?

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                  • WrCombsW
                    WrCombs @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                    @WrCombs said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                    the saga continues - they had a meeting today - google meets meeting , and they can't access it from outlook - my guess is that it's something similar to the above - told them to copy the url below the "link" and paste it in the web browser to see if it would go for the meeting-

                    anyone seen this before?

                    I'm assuming they click the link and either nothing happens or the browser opens and goes to a different website?

                    Do any links in Outlook emails work?

                    he wants to sync the 2 calendars - the google workplace calendar is showing correctly, outlook is not-
                    to answer your question, i dont know at this time

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @WrCombs
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                      @WrCombs said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                      @Dashrender said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                      @WrCombs said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                      the saga continues - they had a meeting today - google meets meeting , and they can't access it from outlook - my guess is that it's something similar to the above - told them to copy the url below the "link" and paste it in the web browser to see if it would go for the meeting-

                      anyone seen this before?

                      I'm assuming they click the link and either nothing happens or the browser opens and goes to a different website?

                      Do any links in Outlook emails work?

                      he wants to sync the 2 calendars - the google workplace calendar is showing correctly, outlook is not-
                      to answer your question, i dont know at this time

                      That doesn't work well at all! IMAP and POP3 don't support it - you have to setup calendar stuff - I'm not sure there is even a way to sync Google Calendar with stand alone Outlook. I know Outlook can import ical into Outlook, but it's a one time deal - it's not a real time sync.

                      It's likely time to really get this customer to move to a new solution. If they demand the use of Outlook - they should run all of their email and calendars through Exchange - i.e. move to O365 or (god forbid) outlook.com (personal accounts - but they don't allow vanity domains anymore).
                      or move away fromOutlook itself and find some other product that solves their needs.
                      Start by asking - besides, using it forever, why do you use Outlook? what feature does it provide other solutions don't? (likely they've never looked so don't know.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                        @WrCombs said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                        @Dashrender said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                        @WrCombs said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                        the saga continues - they had a meeting today - google meets meeting , and they can't access it from outlook - my guess is that it's something similar to the above - told them to copy the url below the "link" and paste it in the web browser to see if it would go for the meeting-

                        anyone seen this before?

                        I'm assuming they click the link and either nothing happens or the browser opens and goes to a different website?

                        Do any links in Outlook emails work?

                        he wants to sync the 2 calendars - the google workplace calendar is showing correctly, outlook is not-
                        to answer your question, i dont know at this time

                        That doesn't work well at all! IMAP and POP3 don't support it - you have to setup calendar stuff - I'm not sure there is even a way to sync Google Calendar with stand alone Outlook. I know Outlook can import ical into Outlook, but it's a one time deal - it's not a real time sync.

                        It's likely time to really get this customer to move to a new solution. If they demand the use of Outlook - they should run all of their email and calendars through Exchange - i.e. move to O365 or (god forbid) outlook.com (personal accounts - but they don't allow vanity domains anymore).
                        or move away fromOutlook itself and find some other product that solves their needs.
                        Start by asking - besides, using it forever, why do you use Outlook? what feature does it provide other solutions don't? (likely they've never looked so don't know.

                        I think you can but need a plugin.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Yeah, the real question is why is he using a tool that is 1) total garbage and 2) not even a tool meant to do this job!

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @WrCombs
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                            @WrCombs said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                            he wants to sync the 2 calendars - the google workplace calendar is showing correctly, outlook is not-
                            to answer your question, i dont know at this time

                            What does that have to do with a google meet meeting? I assume the answer is - since the appointment didn't sync to Outlook - there was nothing in Outlook for them to click - and that's the problem.

                            Potential easy fix for that - whoever is sending the google meet appointment send an invite to the email used by the Outlook client. Once the email invite is downloaded to Outlook - accept the meeting and it should populate the calendar - of course this won't push the information to gmail.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                              What does that have to do with a google meet meeting?

                              Right, it's just a link in the email. So presumably the email arrives or else we'd have said that. So the issue has to be that the links don't work when clicked in Outlook.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                @Dashrender said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                @WrCombs said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                @Dashrender said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                @WrCombs said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                the saga continues - they had a meeting today - google meets meeting , and they can't access it from outlook - my guess is that it's something similar to the above - told them to copy the url below the "link" and paste it in the web browser to see if it would go for the meeting-

                                anyone seen this before?

                                I'm assuming they click the link and either nothing happens or the browser opens and goes to a different website?

                                Do any links in Outlook emails work?

                                he wants to sync the 2 calendars - the google workplace calendar is showing correctly, outlook is not-
                                to answer your question, i dont know at this time

                                That doesn't work well at all! IMAP and POP3 don't support it - you have to setup calendar stuff - I'm not sure there is even a way to sync Google Calendar with stand alone Outlook. I know Outlook can import ical into Outlook, but it's a one time deal - it's not a real time sync.

                                It's likely time to really get this customer to move to a new solution. If they demand the use of Outlook - they should run all of their email and calendars through Exchange - i.e. move to O365 or (god forbid) outlook.com (personal accounts - but they don't allow vanity domains anymore).
                                or move away fromOutlook itself and find some other product that solves their needs.
                                Start by asking - besides, using it forever, why do you use Outlook? what feature does it provide other solutions don't? (likely they've never looked so don't know.

                                I think you can but need a plugin.

                                wow - those are so bloody flakey.. everytime you hear about an outlook plugin - you're hearing about a horror story!

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                  @Dashrender said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                  @WrCombs said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                  @Dashrender said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                  @WrCombs said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                  the saga continues - they had a meeting today - google meets meeting , and they can't access it from outlook - my guess is that it's something similar to the above - told them to copy the url below the "link" and paste it in the web browser to see if it would go for the meeting-

                                  anyone seen this before?

                                  I'm assuming they click the link and either nothing happens or the browser opens and goes to a different website?

                                  Do any links in Outlook emails work?

                                  he wants to sync the 2 calendars - the google workplace calendar is showing correctly, outlook is not-
                                  to answer your question, i dont know at this time

                                  That doesn't work well at all! IMAP and POP3 don't support it - you have to setup calendar stuff - I'm not sure there is even a way to sync Google Calendar with stand alone Outlook. I know Outlook can import ical into Outlook, but it's a one time deal - it's not a real time sync.

                                  It's likely time to really get this customer to move to a new solution. If they demand the use of Outlook - they should run all of their email and calendars through Exchange - i.e. move to O365 or (god forbid) outlook.com (personal accounts - but they don't allow vanity domains anymore).
                                  or move away fromOutlook itself and find some other product that solves their needs.
                                  Start by asking - besides, using it forever, why do you use Outlook? what feature does it provide other solutions don't? (likely they've never looked so don't know.

                                  I think you can but need a plugin.

                                  wow - those are so bloody flakey.. everytime you hear about an outlook plugin - you're hearing about a horror story!

                                  Of course they are, they are for Outlook. Outlook = flaky. That's what Outlook is. It's the one big "what is Outlook"... "it's a flaky piece of crap with little real world purpose." It doesn't solve a normal issue of any sort, it's an extra layer of problems that you add to email to ensure that email that is otherwise stable becomes slow and flaky. Literally, it seems like "being flaky" is the one and only function of Outlook (I'm not being funny, I actually mean that.)

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                    @Dashrender said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                    What does that have to do with a google meet meeting?

                                    Right, it's just a link in the email. So presumably the email arrives or else we'd have said that. So the issue has to be that the links don't work when clicked in Outlook.

                                    I'm guessing that the link is being clicked on in gmail (before or after the email is delivered to outlook), the appointment is being added to the gmail calendar and the email deleted from gmail. When it's deleted from gmail - it's also deleted from Outlook via IMAP - so there's never a chance to click the email ics link in Outlook.

                                    Or just as likely - the appointment is made by this customer in their gmail account (because they can't make a google meet meeting in Outlook) and the appointment only exists in the gmail calendar.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                      @Dashrender said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                      @Dashrender said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                      @WrCombs said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                      @Dashrender said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                      @WrCombs said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                      the saga continues - they had a meeting today - google meets meeting , and they can't access it from outlook - my guess is that it's something similar to the above - told them to copy the url below the "link" and paste it in the web browser to see if it would go for the meeting-

                                      anyone seen this before?

                                      I'm assuming they click the link and either nothing happens or the browser opens and goes to a different website?

                                      Do any links in Outlook emails work?

                                      he wants to sync the 2 calendars - the google workplace calendar is showing correctly, outlook is not-
                                      to answer your question, i dont know at this time

                                      That doesn't work well at all! IMAP and POP3 don't support it - you have to setup calendar stuff - I'm not sure there is even a way to sync Google Calendar with stand alone Outlook. I know Outlook can import ical into Outlook, but it's a one time deal - it's not a real time sync.

                                      It's likely time to really get this customer to move to a new solution. If they demand the use of Outlook - they should run all of their email and calendars through Exchange - i.e. move to O365 or (god forbid) outlook.com (personal accounts - but they don't allow vanity domains anymore).
                                      or move away fromOutlook itself and find some other product that solves their needs.
                                      Start by asking - besides, using it forever, why do you use Outlook? what feature does it provide other solutions don't? (likely they've never looked so don't know.

                                      I think you can but need a plugin.

                                      wow - those are so bloody flakey.. everytime you hear about an outlook plugin - you're hearing about a horror story!

                                      Of course they are, they are for Outlook. Outlook = flaky. That's what Outlook is. It's the one big "what is Outlook"... "it's a flaky piece of crap with little real world purpose." It doesn't solve a normal issue of any sort, it's an extra layer of problems that you add to email to ensure that email that is otherwise stable becomes slow and flaky. Literally, it seems like "being flaky" is the one and only function of Outlook (I'm not being funny, I actually mean that.)

                                      I know you do... I migrated my entire company away from the local Windows based Outlook client to Outlook on the Web. 6 months later our new CEO demanded that all supervisors be given local Outlook - because - it's somehow better.

                                      Now all that said - I like the local Outlook client interface much better than the web interface - BUT I dislike all the issues that come with it, so while I could have Local Outlook - I don't! But our supervisors do.. /sigh.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                        I'm guessing that the link is being clicked on in gmail (before or after the email is delivered to outlook), the appointment is being added to the gmail calendar and the email deleted from gmail. When it's deleted from gmail - it's also deleted from Outlook via IMAP - so there's never a chance to click the email ics link in Outlook.

                                        Not being in the right application and not having the link is very different from the link that is there not working.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                          because - it's somehow better.

                                          Because it helps to hide middle management ineptitude.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said in Any outlook guru's here?:

                                            I don't! But our supervisors do.. /sigh.

                                            Middle managers always like things that make people inefficient but that can be blamed on something or someone else. That's the American employment dream.... being a manager with no purpose and no need to do anything. Slowness is someone else's problem, get paid just for breathing.

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