Who do you use for content delivery? (If that is even the right phrase)
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@scottalanmiller said in Who do you use for content delivery? (If that is even the right phrase):
We used Rackspace for this in the past, and they were okay. That's what ML used to use, in fact.
AWS is the market leader here, of course. Wasabi, Backblaze, Azure... all major players. A lot comes down to what you want. You want that CDN to just be blob storage on large scale, Wasabi is amazing, but if you need it for image hosting for your site's actual in line images, might be too slow. If you want streaming media, CloudFlare's media offering is going to be the best way to go. It depends a bit on the media and it's size, type, and need.
Thanks. I'm getting more info on media types and sizes this morning.
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@JasGot in my email jsut now.
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Clicking through, this is what it is.
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A CDN needs an origin to pull the data from and THEN cache it. Azure blob storage is one of many options you can go with. Comes with pretty much unlimited space (in petabytes).
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Is a CDN even needed? Or just a better place to host your files that offers more space and bandwidth? What are requirements for the CDN?
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@Obsolesce said in Who do you use for content delivery? (If that is even the right phrase):
Is a CDN even needed? Or just a better place to host your files that offers more space and bandwidth? What are requirements for the CDN?
This is exactly what I now think.
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@JaredBusch said in Who do you use for content delivery? (If that is even the right phrase):
@JasGot in my email jsut now.
We've been evaluating using that for a bit. Aren't using it yet, but it's on our radar.
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From the end user:
For all file types, my maximum upload file size with the host is 10 MB. Images: jpeg Quantity: unlimited Avg. size: 1 MB, not more than 2 Videos don’t get loaded up to the website, we just link to our YouTube channel and are able to embed videos from there. Other: pdf Quantity: unlimited Avg. size: Truly such a variation. Presently, the number of things on our website above 10 MB is extremely limited because we have to get specific permission every time to upload a larger file, and even then it’s only a bit more than 10. We have some epub/pdf files we’d like to add that are huge. The best example is a picture book. We’d probably separate it into two files (Old and New ), but even reduced as much as possible, those files are 18 MB and 25 MB. -
So it is definitely a hosting policy. The question is, what would be a good choice to just house files so they can be linked to from their main website?
Oops, forgot to get the answer about inline images v. downloads. BRB.
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@JasGot oh, they definitely want something like Wasabi for that. Your web host is never the right place for hosting things like a large PDF for someone to download. The needs of a normal website and the needs of large file download hosting don't line up. Even as a web host ourselves, we'd never use our own web services for that, we'd use a blob hosting service (even if it was our own.) This is where the Wasabi, AWS, Azure, etc. of the world are exactly what is needed. Very cheap, very easy.
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@scottalanmiller said in Who do you use for content delivery? (If that is even the right phrase):
@JasGot oh, they definitely want something like Wasabi for that. Your web host is never the right place for hosting things like a large PDF for someone to download. The needs of a normal website and the needs of large file download hosting don't line up. Even as a web host ourselves, we'd never use our own web services for that, we'd use a blob hosting service (even if it was our own.) This is where the Wasabi, AWS, Azure, etc. of the world are exactly what is needed. Very cheap, very easy.
Their web visitors are most from OUTSIDE the USA, would you change your recommendation with this new knowledge? Like move one of them to the front of the line?
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@JasGot said in Who do you use for content delivery? (If that is even the right phrase):
From the end user:
For all file types, my maximum upload file size with the host is 10 MB. Images: jpeg Quantity: unlimited Avg. size: 1 MB, not more than 2 Videos don’t get loaded up to the website, we just link to our YouTube channel and are able to embed videos from there. Other: pdf Quantity: unlimited Avg. size: Truly such a variation. Presently, the number of things on our website above 10 MB is extremely limited because we have to get specific permission every time to upload a larger file, and even then it’s only a bit more than 10. We have some epub/pdf files we’d like to add that are huge. The best example is a picture book. We’d probably separate it into two files (Old and New ), but even reduced as much as possible, those files are 18 MB and 25 MB.Those sound like limits set in web/php config or other platform config. But yeah, you need some public storage with enough bandwidth, I don't see a need for CDN since no other requirements were mentioned.
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@JasGot said in Who do you use for content delivery? (If that is even the right phrase):
@scottalanmiller said in Who do you use for content delivery? (If that is even the right phrase):
@JasGot oh, they definitely want something like Wasabi for that. Your web host is never the right place for hosting things like a large PDF for someone to download. The needs of a normal website and the needs of large file download hosting don't line up. Even as a web host ourselves, we'd never use our own web services for that, we'd use a blob hosting service (even if it was our own.) This is where the Wasabi, AWS, Azure, etc. of the world are exactly what is needed. Very cheap, very easy.
Their web visitors are most from OUTSIDE the USA, would you change your recommendation with this new knowledge? Like move one of them to the front of the line?
Some hosts have geographic options to load balance locally for everyone. But we'd need a lot more info to know what to recommend specifically. You need the full picture as there are loads of variables. And if it's just occasional PDF downloads, probably very little actually matters.
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@Obsolesce said in Who do you use for content delivery? (If that is even the right phrase):
@JasGot said in Who do you use for content delivery? (If that is even the right phrase):
From the end user:
For all file types, my maximum upload file size with the host is 10 MB. Images: jpeg Quantity: unlimited Avg. size: 1 MB, not more than 2 Videos don’t get loaded up to the website, we just link to our YouTube channel and are able to embed videos from there. Other: pdf Quantity: unlimited Avg. size: Truly such a variation. Presently, the number of things on our website above 10 MB is extremely limited because we have to get specific permission every time to upload a larger file, and even then it’s only a bit more than 10. We have some epub/pdf files we’d like to add that are huge. The best example is a picture book. We’d probably separate it into two files (Old and New ), but even reduced as much as possible, those files are 18 MB and 25 MB.Those sound like limits set in web/php config or other platform config. But yeah, you need some public storage with enough bandwidth, I don't see a need for CDN since no other requirements were mentioned.
You can pick the region for most solutions. But if you store data in another region, then you may be obligated to follow local policies like GDPR for example.
But as Scott said, need more data to know what to recommend. If it's pdfs, I don't see a reason for anywhere specific from that alone.
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@scottalanmiller said in Who do you use for content delivery? (If that is even the right phrase):
@JasGot oh, they definitely want something like Wasabi for that. Your web host is never the right place for hosting things like a large PDF for someone to download. The needs of a normal website and the needs of large file download hosting don't line up. Even as a web host ourselves, we'd never use our own web services for that, we'd use a blob hosting service (even if it was our own.) This is where the Wasabi, AWS, Azure, etc. of the world are exactly what is needed. Very cheap, very easy.
Would BackBlaze work?
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@JasGot said in Who do you use for content delivery? (If that is even the right phrase):
From the end user:
For all file types, my maximum upload file size with the host is 10 MB. Images: jpeg Quantity: unlimited Avg. size: 1 MB, not more than 2 Videos don’t get loaded up to the website, we just link to our YouTube channel and are able to embed videos from there. Other: pdf Quantity: unlimited Avg. size: Truly such a variation. Presently, the number of things on our website above 10 MB is extremely limited because we have to get specific permission every time to upload a larger file, and even then it’s only a bit more than 10. We have some epub/pdf files we’d like to add that are huge. The best example is a picture book. We’d probably separate it into two files (Old and New ), but even reduced as much as possible, those files are 18 MB and 25 MB.This sounds like really crappy hosting, some shared plan, probably cpanel, like godaddy or hostgator, or some similar dump. And it doesn't sound like they have a lot of data stored there, limits are so crippling, it's hard to imagine having TBs, hell, even GBs there. I'd migrate to at the very least some VPS, where you have full control over entire OS. This hosting company just doesn't sound professional.
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@JasGot said in Who do you use for content delivery? (If that is even the right phrase):
Their hosting provider has told them they will not allow them to upload any more media to their site for visitors to view because there is simply too much data.
This is where you tell the hosting provider they are a joke, close the checkbook, and migrate. There is no "they CANNOT move", they are just too lazy or too cheap to have it done by professional.
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@marcinozga said in Who do you use for content delivery? (If that is even the right phrase):
@JasGot said in Who do you use for content delivery? (If that is even the right phrase):
Their hosting provider has told them they will not allow them to upload any more media to their site for visitors to view because there is simply too much data.
This is where you tell the hosting provider they are a joke, close the checkbook, and migrate. There is no "they CANNOT move", they are just too lazy or too cheap to have it done by professional.
You are so unaware of the circumstances, that you sound foolish with these statements.
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@JasGot said in Who do you use for content delivery? (If that is even the right phrase):
@marcinozga said in Who do you use for content delivery? (If that is even the right phrase):
@JasGot said in Who do you use for content delivery? (If that is even the right phrase):
Their hosting provider has told them they will not allow them to upload any more media to their site for visitors to view because there is simply too much data.
This is where you tell the hosting provider they are a joke, close the checkbook, and migrate. There is no "they CANNOT move", they are just too lazy or too cheap to have it done by professional.
You are so unaware of the circumstances, that you sound foolish with these statements.
With the limitations you provided above, it's easy to assume this isn't anything complex or large as to make it hard to migrate. These limitations are so crippling, it's hard to take that provider seriously, and I would laugh in their faces if I heard anything similar to that.
Why don't you enlighten us what the circumstances are?
