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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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      @gjacobse said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

      @scottalanmiller said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

      @CCWTech said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

      It seems really high compared to other brand of print servers out there.

      because it's from the printer maker.

      You can always make your own with a Raspberry Pi for very cheap that will support as many printers as you'd reasonably want.

      You beat me to it- I actually just did this with a raspberry pi three and diet pi, it also run apcupsd to monitor the APC 1000 running my core network.

      Nice!

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      • CCWTechC
        CCWTech @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

        @CCWTech said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

        @gjacobse said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

        Incidentally, you could likely do this with a raspberry pi zero and a USB add on board for a smaller footprint if needed

        What advantage would that have IF one of the $40 print servers would work?

        An RP means that you have unlimited flexibility to make it do whatever you want. A $40 print server is hard to beat, but an RP is roughly the same price, too. Would be potentially easier to standardize if you are deploying lots of them.

        I like this. Thanks!

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          An RP would mean that standard tools... Zabbix, MeshCentral, whatever could be installed and used. As can ZeroTier, SSH, SaltStack, etc. Whatever standardization path you go down, they are a part of it rather than being an IoT device that isn't easy to manage.

          Plus you have full control of patching and updates for the long haul.

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee
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            Each Dymo gets one RP?

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            • CCWTechC
              CCWTech @FATeknollogee
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              @FATeknollogee said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

              Each Dymo gets one RP?

              In my scenario yes. Printers are not near each other.

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              • jt1001001J
                jt1001001 @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller going to look into this for our shipping Dymo label device, never even thought of using a Pi. Thanks!

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee
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                  In the past, I've used these to "network" desktop scanners, I wonder if this would work?

                  https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-100Mbps-Ethernet-Network-Server/dp/B016A4MSA4/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=10%2F100+Ethernet+USB+2.0+Print+Server&qid=1587238278&s=electronics&sr=1-4

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                  • CCWTechC
                    CCWTech @FATeknollogee
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                    @FATeknollogee said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                    In the past, I've used these to "network" desktop scanners, I wonder if this would work?

                    https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-100Mbps-Ethernet-Network-Server/dp/B016A4MSA4/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=10%2F100+Ethernet+USB+2.0+Print+Server&qid=1587238278&s=electronics&sr=1-4

                    Probably but...

                    @scottalanmiller said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                    An RP would mean that standard tools... Zabbix, MeshCentral, whatever could be installed and used. As can ZeroTier, SSH, SaltStack, etc. Whatever standardization path you go down, they are a part of it rather than being an IoT device that isn't easy to manage.
                    Plus you have full control of patching and updates for the long haul.

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                      1337
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                      A quick search shows that Dymo is very finicky with 3rd party print servers. And we know the AviMark software is finicky as well.

                      Is it really worth all this trouble to save what, 60 bucks? For something that might or might not work reliably?

                      Even if you need ten of them, I doubt you are going break even - if you can make it work at all.

                      And what happens when Dymo upgrades their driver and the DIY print server doesn't work anymore. You're back to square one.

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                      • CCWTechC
                        CCWTech @1337
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                        @Pete-S said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                        A quick search shows that Dymo is very finicky with 3rd party print servers. And we know the AviMark software is finicky as well.

                        Is it really worth all this trouble to save what, 60 bucks? For something that might or might not work reliably?

                        Even if you need ten of them, I doubt you are going break even - if you can make it work at all.

                        And what happens when Dymo upgrades their driver and the DIY print server doesn't work anymore. You're back to square one.

                        Maybe they won't work at all. I'm going to test one. And Dymo could change but really there isn't a huge financial incentive for them to change. They have a well designed product that does what it's supposed to.

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                          1337 @CCWTech
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                          @CCWTech said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                          @Pete-S said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                          A quick search shows that Dymo is very finicky with 3rd party print servers. And we know the AviMark software is finicky as well.

                          Is it really worth all this trouble to save what, 60 bucks? For something that might or might not work reliably?

                          Even if you need ten of them, I doubt you are going break even - if you can make it work at all.

                          And what happens when Dymo upgrades their driver and the DIY print server doesn't work anymore. You're back to square one.

                          Maybe they won't work at all. I'm going to test one. And Dymo could change but really there isn't a huge financial incentive for them to change. They have a well designed product that does what it's supposed to.

                          Come to think of it, wouldn't it make sense to replace the printers that needs to be network connected, with the Dymo LabelWriter wireless model instead?
                          https://www.dymo.com/en-US/Label-writer-Wireless

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                          • notverypunnyN
                            notverypunny
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                            So just to throw another option into the mix:
                            https://www.virtualhere.com/

                            Basically a usb over IP... one of the guys at work was playing around with it, seemed to work OK, should be sufficient for label printing and would eliminate the concerns surrounding 3rd party print servers and driver updates.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @notverypunny
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                              @notverypunny said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                              So just to throw another option into the mix:
                              https://www.virtualhere.com/

                              Basically a usb over IP... one of the guys at work was playing around with it, seemed to work OK, should be sufficient for label printing and would eliminate the concerns surrounding 3rd party print servers and driver updates.

                              USB doesn't natively allow for sharing. How would that be handled in this scenario? Does it "just work"? I've not tried this in that kind of scenario so have no idea how it would react.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @1337
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                                @Pete-S said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                                @CCWTech said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                                I have several clients that use the Dymo label printers. Many of them want to have multiple computers print to the label printer so I have used the Dymo LabelWriter Print Servers (est $125/each).

                                It seems really high compared to other brand of print servers out there.

                                Is there any particular advantage or reason to use their print server over just another vendors print server? I feel like money can be saved by using other vendors products instead of the Dymo brand, but wanted suggestions.

                                Print servers is very old school. Normally you just use label printers that have ethernet.

                                Do you have one that costs less than the combined price of Dymo label printer and the print server? (typically around $250)

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                                  1337 @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                                  @Pete-S said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                                  @CCWTech said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                                  I have several clients that use the Dymo label printers. Many of them want to have multiple computers print to the label printer so I have used the Dymo LabelWriter Print Servers (est $125/each).

                                  It seems really high compared to other brand of print servers out there.

                                  Is there any particular advantage or reason to use their print server over just another vendors print server? I feel like money can be saved by using other vendors products instead of the Dymo brand, but wanted suggestions.

                                  Print servers is very old school. Normally you just use label printers that have ethernet.

                                  Do you have one that costs less than the combined price of Dymo label printer and the print server? (typically around $250)

                                  We don't use Dymo but the Dymo LabelWriter Wireless printer seem to be in the $130-170 span.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @1337
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                                    @Pete-S said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                                    @Dashrender said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                                    @Pete-S said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                                    @CCWTech said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                                    I have several clients that use the Dymo label printers. Many of them want to have multiple computers print to the label printer so I have used the Dymo LabelWriter Print Servers (est $125/each).

                                    It seems really high compared to other brand of print servers out there.

                                    Is there any particular advantage or reason to use their print server over just another vendors print server? I feel like money can be saved by using other vendors products instead of the Dymo brand, but wanted suggestions.

                                    Print servers is very old school. Normally you just use label printers that have ethernet.

                                    Do you have one that costs less than the combined price of Dymo label printer and the print server? (typically around $250)

                                    We don't use Dymo but the Dymo LabelWriter Wireless printer seem to be in the $130-170 span.

                                    I did recently deploy one of these, and it worked wonderfully! So yeah, definitely a good choice in my opinion.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @1337
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                                      @Pete-S said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                                      @Dashrender said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                                      @Pete-S said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                                      @CCWTech said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                                      I have several clients that use the Dymo label printers. Many of them want to have multiple computers print to the label printer so I have used the Dymo LabelWriter Print Servers (est $125/each).

                                      It seems really high compared to other brand of print servers out there.

                                      Is there any particular advantage or reason to use their print server over just another vendors print server? I feel like money can be saved by using other vendors products instead of the Dymo brand, but wanted suggestions.

                                      Print servers is very old school. Normally you just use label printers that have ethernet.

                                      Do you have one that costs less than the combined price of Dymo label printer and the print server? (typically around $250)

                                      We don't use Dymo but the Dymo LabelWriter Wireless printer seem to be in the $130-170 span.

                                      When I deployed the majority of my Dymo Label printers, the wifi model wasn't avalialble, the dymo printer and dymo print server has worked very well for us.

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                                      • hobbit666H
                                        hobbit666 @notverypunny
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                                        @notverypunny said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                                        So just to throw another option into the mix:
                                        https://www.virtualhere.com/

                                        Basically a usb over IP... one of the guys at work was playing around with it, seemed to work OK, should be sufficient for label printing and would eliminate the concerns surrounding 3rd party print servers and driver updates.

                                        In theory they are good. But in practice i've never got something like this to work 100%
                                        I've only never tried using one of these https://www.startech.com/uk/Networking-IO/Print/usb-print-server~PM1115U2

                                        Printer kept going offline for no reason.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @hobbit666
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                                          @hobbit666 said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                                          @notverypunny said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                                          So just to throw another option into the mix:
                                          https://www.virtualhere.com/

                                          Basically a usb over IP... one of the guys at work was playing around with it, seemed to work OK, should be sufficient for label printing and would eliminate the concerns surrounding 3rd party print servers and driver updates.

                                          In theory they are good. But in practice i've never got something like this to work 100%
                                          I've only never tried using one of these https://www.startech.com/uk/Networking-IO/Print/usb-print-server~PM1115U2

                                          Printer kept going offline for no reason.

                                          I have a Digi USBAnywhere 2 that I've been using for 2+ years to provide access to a USB dongle/key for software unlock with Mitel software on a VM. It's worked beautifully this entire time.

                                          Makes me wonder if the StarTech one was just faulty?

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                                          • notverypunnyN
                                            notverypunny @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                                            @notverypunny said in Dymo vs. other print servers:

                                            So just to throw another option into the mix:
                                            https://www.virtualhere.com/

                                            Basically a usb over IP... one of the guys at work was playing around with it, seemed to work OK, should be sufficient for label printing and would eliminate the concerns surrounding 3rd party print servers and driver updates.

                                            USB doesn't natively allow for sharing. How would that be handled in this scenario? Does it "just work"? I've not tried this in that kind of scenario so have no idea how it would react.

                                            Honestly don't know. I would hope for there to be a virtual plug / unplug function that could be auto-magically invoked... either out of the box or via scripting / timeout

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