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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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      @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

      ....They don't care about us to the degree that we care about ourselves. ....
      How is this AJ Syndrome?

      That line literally defines AJ Syndrome. You (or your boss or your location) has set a priority that doesn't match what the company dictates. The "owners" or CEO or whatever determine priority X, but you see Y as important and feel that something that the company doesn't see as important is important for your own reasons. It's a personal priority (or someone, maybe your boss) rather than a business one. Hence, AJ Syndrome.

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22
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        The realm problem here is France demanding control but not offering 24/7 support. We are on every continent. Doesn't make sense.

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        • wirestyle22W
          wirestyle22 @wirestyle22
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          @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

          It's just a problem I am working on. Anything else gathered from this is wrong. If my boss tells me to install a printer, i install it. If my boss tells me to try to diagnose a problem on a server, I do it. If he comes out and tells me to stop I will stop.
          When am I just doing my job?

          @scottalanmiller

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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            @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

            Doesn't make sense.

            Doens't need to make sense to you. That's AJS. Feeling that there are different priorities than set by the company management / owner.

            You might be right from a profits standpoint, but that's up to them to determine.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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              @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

              It's just a problem I am working on. Anything else gathered from this is wrong. If my boss tells me to install a printer, i install it. If my boss tells me to try to diagnose a problem on a server, I do it. If he comes out and tells me to stop I will stop.
              When am I just doing my job?

              I get it, sounds like it is your boss with AJS here.

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                It's just a problem I am working on. Anything else gathered from this is wrong. If my boss tells me to install a printer, i install it. If my boss tells me to try to diagnose a problem on a server, I do it. If he comes out and tells me to stop I will stop.
                When am I just doing my job?

                I get it, sounds like it is your boss with AJS here.

                So my situation doesn't change. I am still working on this issue.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                  last edited by

                  @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                  @scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                  @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                  It's just a problem I am working on. Anything else gathered from this is wrong. If my boss tells me to install a printer, i install it. If my boss tells me to try to diagnose a problem on a server, I do it. If he comes out and tells me to stop I will stop.
                  When am I just doing my job?

                  I get it, sounds like it is your boss with AJS here.

                  So my situation doesn't change. I am still working on this issue.

                  Depends if you feel your direct boss or his boss is in charge 😉

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by DustinB3403

                    @scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                    @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                    @scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                    @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                    It's just a problem I am working on. Anything else gathered from this is wrong. If my boss tells me to install a printer, i install it. If my boss tells me to try to diagnose a problem on a server, I do it. If he comes out and tells me to stop I will stop.
                    When am I just doing my job?

                    I get it, sounds like it is your boss with AJS here.

                    So my situation doesn't change. I am still working on this issue.

                    Depends if you feel your direct boss or his boss is in charge 😉

                    No, his boss is the person who he reports to. He's apparently been tasked with spending time on trying to find out what happened and to presumably document it. Rather than just to get the system up and running.

                    Unless his bosses boss came to @wirestyle22 and said "What are you doing, don't do that" should @wirestyle22 just stick with what he's been told to do. It sounds like this was a direct order.

                    "Drill a hold in that table." sort of thing.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                      "Drill a hold in that table." sort of thing.

                      Where else is the blood supposed to go when we sacrifice them?

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                        @DustinB3403 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                        "Drill a hold in that table." sort of thing.

                        Where else is the blood supposed to go when we sacrifice them?

                        I think your D&D is showing.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @DustinB3403 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                          @JaredBusch said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                          @DustinB3403 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                          "Drill a hold in that table." sort of thing.

                          Where else is the blood supposed to go when we sacrifice them?

                          I think your D&D is showing.

                          Likely

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                            @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                            If we restore it's going to take a long time. It's over MPLS to France. One file is nothing.

                            This is a huge problem. How the heck are they using Europe as their singular backup location for US based servers? This is insanity.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              Have you tried some of the things that we suggested? Like started Apache without the workload to make sure Apache itself is okay?

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                                Apache without the workload

                                Not sure how I would achieve this. I must have missed this comment

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                                  last edited by

                                  @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                                  Apache without the workload

                                  Not sure how I would achieve this. I must have missed this comment

                                  You remove the conf file that points to whatever application you are trying to host.

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                                    Apache without the workload

                                    Not sure how I would achieve this. I must have missed this comment

                                    You remove the conf file that points to whatever application you are trying to host.

                                    Right I'm having trouble locating it. Been looking for awhile. I'm going to try to talk to one of the developers tomorrow when they are here

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      It is apache. It has known config locations that cannot just be changed.

                                      /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf for starters.

                                      Even back in RHEL 4 (yes this is still a live server I just made the screenshot from).
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                                      • wirestyle22W
                                        wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch Wouldn't this be apache related, but actually php?

                                        oci8.so is what I'm trying to comment out somewhere

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                          @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                                          Apache without the workload

                                          Not sure how I would achieve this. I must have missed this comment

                                          You remove the conf file that points to whatever application you are trying to host.

                                          Right I'm having trouble locating it. Been looking for awhile. I'm going to try to talk to one of the developers tomorrow when they are here

                                          Jared provided the location. /etc/httpd/ has all the Apache config files.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                                            last edited by

                                            @wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:

                                            @JaredBusch Wouldn't this be apache related, but actually php?

                                            oci8.so is what I'm trying to comment out somewhere

                                            No, it is not. That's a C library. Start with what we are talking about... disabling the workload. Ignore the shared libraries, I think you are getting stuck in the weeds. Yes, the errors might be related to that, but likely you have a bigger problem.

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