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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      It's also worth noting that "sly" doesn't really apply to the advertisers, here. They are the content providers, it is the ad blockers themselves that are "sly" in this conversation.

      Sly would include trying to use the site while not seeing the ad portions of the site. Knowing that the ads are part of a site and trying to not see them is intentionally circumventing the site's revenue. I'm not saying that that is wrong to do, we all hate ads and ad services, I use PiHole myself. But when I use a PiHole I know that I'm being "sly" to block services (not ads) that I don't want.

      I also know that PiHole is being "sly" because it claims to block ads, when it does nothing of the sort, and actually blocks services that, by blocking, hopefully I get fewer ads. but it is the service hosts, not the ads, that are being blocked. So I know that their are circumventing the truth in how they present the product.

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        I always use ad blockers because it makes the sites faster. I hate slow things and I also hate being tracked everywhere.
        I've seen several small sites that does ads with images on their site. I don't have a problem with it even if it's easy to block them as well.

        Right now my adblocker blocks 32 elements on this page. Visually it's not much of a difference though.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @1337
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          @Pete-S said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

          I always use ad blockers because it makes the sites faster. I hate slow things and I also hate being tracked everywhere.
          I've seen several small sites that does ads with images on their site. I don't have a problem with it even if it's easy to block them as well.

          Right now my adblocker blocks 32 elements on this page.

          Which means that it is blocking a lot of non-ads. Is that sly? lol

          What is it blocking, given that there are only every two ads on any page?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @1337
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            @Pete-S said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

            I always use ad blockers because it makes the sites faster. I hate slow things and I also hate being tracked everywhere.
            I've seen several small sites that does ads with images on their site. I don't have a problem with it even if it's easy to block them as well.

            Ads here don't have any tracking (not getting tracked is a key reason why host our own), and are fully cached normally (another benefit to hosting our own) so you should get no benefits from your ad blocker here.

            Actually, ad services "circumvent" normal caching systems making sites a lot slower.

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              1337 @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

              @Pete-S said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

              I always use ad blockers because it makes the sites faster. I hate slow things and I also hate being tracked everywhere.
              I've seen several small sites that does ads with images on their site. I don't have a problem with it even if it's easy to block them as well.

              Right now my adblocker blocks 32 elements on this page.

              Which means that it is blocking a lot of non-ads. Is that sly? lol

              What is it blocking, given that there are only every two ads on any page?

              I have no clue actually. I'm guessing javascript trackers. Cross-site stuff. Social media icons if you have any.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @1337
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                @Pete-S said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

                @scottalanmiller said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

                @Pete-S said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

                I always use ad blockers because it makes the sites faster. I hate slow things and I also hate being tracked everywhere.
                I've seen several small sites that does ads with images on their site. I don't have a problem with it even if it's easy to block them as well.

                Right now my adblocker blocks 32 elements on this page.

                Which means that it is blocking a lot of non-ads. Is that sly? lol

                What is it blocking, given that there are only every two ads on any page?

                I have no clue actually. I'm guessing javascript trackers. Cross-site stuff. Social media icons if you have any.

                Nope, none of that.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  The site has literally zero tracking (not even Google Analytics before someone says it) and nothing cross-site. No social media icons (which would be fine to have, we just don't have any.)

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                    1337 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller It looks like it has to do with the dynamic nature of the site, so the counter will increase each time it blocks something. After a page refresh it's blocking 3 things. Two vultr images and one colo ntg ad. It's because they are inside the EasyList.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @1337
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                      @Pete-S said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

                      @scottalanmiller It looks like it has to do with the dynamic nature of the site, so the counter will increase each time it blocks something. After a page refresh it's blocking 3 things. Two vultr images and one colo ntg ad. It's because they are inside the EasyList.

                      EasyList?

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                        1337 @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

                        @Pete-S said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

                        @scottalanmiller It looks like it has to do with the dynamic nature of the site, so the counter will increase each time it blocks something. After a page refresh it's blocking 3 things. Two vultr images and one colo ntg ad. It's because they are inside the EasyList.

                        EasyList?

                        https://easylist.to/

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          I see, I've never used that, basically a key word list to look for in file names.

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                            1337 @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

                            I see, I've never used that, basically a key word list to look for in file names.

                            Yes, it's seems to be the default installed list for a lot of the browser adblockers out there.

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                            • black3dynamiteB
                              black3dynamite
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                              I see this in Privacy Badger add-on.
                              14f0f0cf-8716-4833-91b3-db015e1c8c7a-image.png

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                                @black3dynamite said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

                                I see this in Privacy Badger add-on.
                                14f0f0cf-8716-4833-91b3-db015e1c8c7a-image.png

                                That's the CDN, fonts, in thread images. No idea what the last ones are.

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                                • RojoLocoR
                                  RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

                                  @black3dynamite said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

                                  I see this in Privacy Badger add-on.
                                  14f0f0cf-8716-4833-91b3-db015e1c8c7a-image.png

                                  That's the CDN, fonts, in thread images. No idea what the last ones are.

                                  Then it's smart to block the shit out of those.

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce @DustinB3403
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                                    @DustinB3403 said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

                                    So this stems from @JaredBusch topic on the Skytele billing.

                                    Is it sly, to host advertisements on your website, knowing full well that many people use ad blockers and things like PiHole to avoid having to see ads and that hosting these images directly would circumvent all of the website users systems?

                                    It's not typically the adds themselves, due to decent targeting.

                                    It's the obnoxious aspect most bring, which ideally doesn't happen from a simple image and link.

                                    But on ML specifically, they are annoying because I tend to accidentally click on them all the time and it posses me off each time.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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                                      @RojoLoco said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

                                      @black3dynamite said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

                                      I see this in Privacy Badger add-on.
                                      14f0f0cf-8716-4833-91b3-db015e1c8c7a-image.png

                                      That's the CDN, fonts, in thread images. No idea what the last ones are.

                                      Then it's smart to block the shit out of those.

                                      You don't want fonts, the images that are the topic of the threads, and the cache? What?

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                                      • RojoLocoR
                                        RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller the ones after that which you can't identify. Block those.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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                                          @RojoLoco said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

                                          @scottalanmiller the ones after that which you can't identify. Block those.

                                          Oh, yeah, I'm guessing that the one is something someone linked. I'm going to look for that.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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                                            @RojoLoco said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

                                            @black3dynamite said in is hosting advertisements directly on your website sly?:

                                            I see this in Privacy Badger add-on.
                                            14f0f0cf-8716-4833-91b3-db015e1c8c7a-image.png

                                            That's the CDN, fonts, in thread images. No idea what the last ones are.

                                            Then it's smart to block the shit out of those.

                                            Oh, Alamy is a stock image source. It's providing the picture of the gate in the field. NOT something you want blocked, it's a meme in this case.

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