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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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      @wrx7m said in Buying a New Car:

      I could just get the new car and front myself the cash for the down of say 14K and then sell/trade in my current one after fixing the cosmetic issues to pay myself back. Then I thought about the fact that my CD and high yield savings account rates are more than the loan amount, so I would be losing money by making a large down payment. I just don't like the idea of that large of a car payment.

      Don't get emotional about financial decisions. Buying a car or not buying a car is partially emotional, yes. But how you finance it is not, that's pure business.

      That you don't like large car payments, my MIL would say... suck it up, buttercup. Putting one penny down more than you have to is just throwing money away.

      Get the car on the law interest rate, 1.9% is fantastic. Finance every penny you can, throw in some extra, if you can 😉 Set aside every dollar that you can towards it that you want to use as a down payment, use that as collateral to ensure that your interest rate stays as low as possible.

      Then, don't waste that money, put that money into an interest bearing account. Not savings or CD, but into something more aggressive like an index, because we are talking years of investment here, with a lot of money.

      Now make the minimum monthly payments. If you need to keep your monthly reasonable, pay the amount you would have been comfortable with per month from your normal income, and top it up to the minimum required amount using the fund. This way you are gaining interest every month. When it comes time to pay off the car in a few years, you'll have earned a bit of money from the process that can stay in the fund gaining more interest, forever.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        • wrx7mW
          wrx7m @scottalanmiller
          last edited by wrx7m

          @scottalanmiller said in Buying a New Car:

          @wrx7m said in Buying a New Car:

          I am looking to trade-in my 2007 Subaru STi ...

          WTF. That car is like your identity! It's like trading in one of your children!

          This is the same one... just newer lol
          I had a 2003 WRX from 2005 to 2012 and have had this STi since 2011.

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          • IRJI
            IRJ
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            Buying a base model saves a ton of money. We bought a base dodge caravan and I easily installed all the extras for about $400 out of pocket. Instead of going up $10k and really not getting much.

            I installed an android head unit, backup camera, flip down TVs, and some other small things. The only thing we don't have that the luxury model has is leather seats and a separate rear ac controller. I admit the rear ac controller would be nice, but it wasn't worth the $10k to me.

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            • wrx7mW
              wrx7m @IRJ
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              @IRJ said in Buying a New Car:

              Buying a base model saves a ton of money. We bought a base dodge caravan and I easily installed all the extras for about $400 out of pocket. Instead of going up $10k and really not getting much.

              I installed an android head unit, backup camera, flip down TVs, and some other small things. The only thing we don't have that the luxury model has is leather seats and a separate rear ac controller. I admit the rear ac controller would be nice, but it wasn't worth the $10k to me.

              Thanks. There is no real base model on this car; it is their flagship. Also, I would buy late model used, but the savings is next to nothing, as the car holds its value and doesn't depreciate much.

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              • IRJI
                IRJ @wrx7m
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                @wrx7m said in Buying a New Car:

                @IRJ said in Buying a New Car:

                Buying a base model saves a ton of money. We bought a base dodge caravan and I easily installed all the extras for about $400 out of pocket. Instead of going up $10k and really not getting much.

                I installed an android head unit, backup camera, flip down TVs, and some other small things. The only thing we don't have that the luxury model has is leather seats and a separate rear ac controller. I admit the rear ac controller would be nice, but it wasn't worth the $10k to me.

                Thanks. There is no real base model on this car; it is their flagship. Also, I would buy late model used, but the savings is next to nothing, as the car holds its value and doesn't depreciate much.

                Yep I understand. I have a friend that's crazy about suburu. I'm a big believer in base models since I like to do automotive work.

                I was able to do all these extras in about 8 hours. I could have ran everything in 2 hours, but I was very careful to make everything look factory. I pulled off all the panels and did it the right way.

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce
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                  I would never again buy a new car, even with a promo and heavy discount. The absolute newest I'd go is 3-5 years depending on the car, but generally older.

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                  • wrx7mW
                    wrx7m @Obsolesce
                    last edited by

                    @Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:

                    I would never again buy a new car, even with a promo and heavy discount. The absolute newest I'd go is 3-5 years depending on the car, but generally older.

                    The used ones are practically the same price.

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                    • wrx7mW
                      wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Buying a New Car:

                      @wrx7m said in Buying a New Car:

                      I could just get the new car and front myself the cash for the down of say 14K and then sell/trade in my current one after fixing the cosmetic issues to pay myself back. Then I thought about the fact that my CD and high yield savings account rates are more than the loan amount, so I would be losing money by making a large down payment. I just don't like the idea of that large of a car payment.

                      Don't get emotional about financial decisions. Buying a car or not buying a car is partially emotional, yes. But how you finance it is not, that's pure business.

                      That you don't like large car payments, my MIL would say... suck it up, buttercup. Putting one penny down more than you have to is just throwing money away.

                      Get the car on the law interest rate, 1.9% is fantastic. Finance every penny you can, throw in some extra, if you can 😉 Set aside every dollar that you can towards it that you want to use as a down payment, use that as collateral to ensure that your interest rate stays as low as possible.

                      Then, don't waste that money, put that money into an interest bearing account. Not savings or CD, but into something more aggressive like an index, because we are talking years of investment here, with a lot of money.

                      Now make the minimum monthly payments. If you need to keep your monthly reasonable, pay the amount you would have been comfortable with per month from your normal income, and top it up to the minimum required amount using the fund. This way you are gaining interest every month. When it comes time to pay off the car in a few years, you'll have earned a bit of money from the process that can stay in the fund gaining more interest, forever.

                      So, dealing with the old car could be done independent of this, because I wouldn't be using any of the money from the sale to put down on the new car at the time of purchase.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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                        @wrx7m said in Buying a New Car:

                        So, dealing with the old car could be done independent of this, because I wouldn't be using any of the money from the sale to put down on the new car at the time of purchase.

                        Yeah, I would think so. Do it separately and get a better deal.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @wrx7m
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                          @wrx7m said in Buying a New Car:

                          @Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:

                          I would never again buy a new car, even with a promo and heavy discount. The absolute newest I'd go is 3-5 years depending on the car, but generally older.

                          The used ones are practically the same price.

                          I see a $10-15k difference between 2019 and 2015 and 2014. That's a huge amount. That's more than I paid brand new for my daily driver lol.

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                          • EddieJenningsE
                            EddieJennings
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                            Forgive the thread hijack: this deal finally finished today.
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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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                              @EddieJennings what did you get?

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                              • EddieJenningsE
                                EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Buying a New Car:

                                @EddieJennings what did you get?

                                2019 Toyota Camry XLE

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                                • FATeknollogeeF
                                  FATeknollogee
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                                  Take the car to Carmax for an appraisal.
                                  Book an appointment online, aren't you in Ventura? There's a CarMax in Oxnard.
                                  If you like their offer, they'll cut you a check on the spot.

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                                  • IRJI
                                    IRJ @FATeknollogee
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                                    @FATeknollogee said in Buying a New Car:

                                    Take the car to Carmax for an appraisal.
                                    Book an appointment online, aren't you in Ventura? There's a CarMax in Oxnard.
                                    If you like their offer, they'll cut you a check on the spot.

                                    It's too old. I don't think they will take 07

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                                    • EddieJenningsE
                                      EddieJennings @IRJ
                                      last edited by

                                      @IRJ said in Buying a New Car:

                                      @FATeknollogee said in Buying a New Car:

                                      Take the car to Carmax for an appraisal.
                                      Book an appointment online, aren't you in Ventura? There's a CarMax in Oxnard.
                                      If you like their offer, they'll cut you a check on the spot.

                                      It's too old. I don't think they will take 07

                                      CarMax offered me $1,500 for my 2005 Camry, so I imagine 2007 should be ok.

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                                      • IRJI
                                        IRJ @EddieJennings
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                                        @EddieJennings said in Buying a New Car:

                                        @IRJ said in Buying a New Car:

                                        @FATeknollogee said in Buying a New Car:

                                        Take the car to Carmax for an appraisal.
                                        Book an appointment online, aren't you in Ventura? There's a CarMax in Oxnard.
                                        If you like their offer, they'll cut you a check on the spot.

                                        It's too old. I don't think they will take 07

                                        CarMax offered me $1,500 for my 2005 Camry, so I imagine 2007 should be ok.

                                        Wow ok. I thought there was a 10 year limit or something. Maybe that's a local thing

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                                        • B
                                          bnrstnr
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                                          Definitely don't trade it in. You'll get ripped off. You're almost always better off selling it privately (here in MI, anyway). Unless, of course, your car is worth less than like $2000 and the dealer is offering $2000 guaranteed... I doubt that's the case though.

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                                          • pmonchoP
                                            pmoncho @Obsolesce
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                                            @Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:

                                            @wrx7m said in Buying a New Car:

                                            @Obsolesce said in Buying a New Car:

                                            I would never again buy a new car, even with a promo and heavy discount. The absolute newest I'd go is 3-5 years depending on the car, but generally older.

                                            The used ones are practically the same price.

                                            I see a $10-15k difference between 2019 and 2015 and 2014. That's a huge amount. That's more than I paid brand new for my daily driver lol.

                                            I'm with ya on this one. I like to purchase a 1 year off lease from one owner if I can find it. Those are the best deals going. The trick is to find one with 15K miles or less. Do that, you get 30% of list, the balance of the warranty and no need for repairs for two years. Good value at that price

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