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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @GodfatherX64
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      @GodfatherX64 said in Advice On a New Setup:

      what setup do you suggest to create a failover backup cluster?
      lets say i want to connect to the 2 on site servers with one connection or one path , an if one is down the second is up with the same data on it

      If you want a failover cluster for a file server, use Starwind and do your failover at the platform level (hypervisor), not in the VM. For other workloads, like databases, you want the application to handle it.

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        scottalanmiller @dave_c
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        @dave_c said in Advice On a New Setup:

        @GodfatherX64
        Entersource (among others) ships to many countries
        https://www.enterasource.com/dell-poweredge-r720-8-port-lff-2u-rackmount-server-configure-to-order

        xByte will ship to many countries, too. But the tariffs can be tough.

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        • GodfatherX64G
          GodfatherX64
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          info for all : i live in Egypt

          @marcinozga , thanks for your suggestion , i'm starting to think about one big server instead of two.

          @Pete-S , unfortunately, supermicro is not available here and the shipping cost for a new server is massive.

          @dave_c , the cost to buy something from outside the country is tough, we cant do that right now.

          @bnrstnr , the r510 is the only server i can find here with 3.5 slots, either that or older,
          and we can't import from outside the country these days.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @GodfatherX64
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            @GodfatherX64 said in Advice On a New Setup:

            @marcinozga , thanks for your suggestion , i'm starting to think about one big server instead of two.

            That is nearly always the better choice. It varies by region, company, task, etc. BUT...

            Generally the cost of doubling the hardware is high, while the cost of downtime is low. People perceive it the opposite, and sometimes it is, but most often it is the better business decision not to have failover. Even huge investment banks rarely do that for workloads.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by DustinB3403

              To ask the question, what qualifies as a " 'proper' storage server" to you?

              Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris?

              Physical or virtual (everyone here would recommend virtual).

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              • GodfatherX64G
                GodfatherX64
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                @scottalanmiller said in Advice On a New Setup:

                @GodfatherX64 said in Advice On a New Setup:

                what setup do you suggest to create a failover backup cluster?
                lets say i want to connect to the 2 on site servers with one connection or one path , an if one is down the second is up with the same data on it

                If you want a failover cluster for a file server, use Starwind and do your failover at the platform level (hypervisor), not in the VM. For other workloads, like databases, you want the application to handle it.

                @scottalanmiller , thanks

                instead of the hypervizor failover, what do you suggest for a sync service in linux to just copy the differtintals between files, what do you think about rsync, would it be adequate than the hypervisor

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @GodfatherX64
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                  @GodfatherX64 said in Advice On a New Setup:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Advice On a New Setup:

                  @GodfatherX64 said in Advice On a New Setup:

                  what setup do you suggest to create a failover backup cluster?
                  lets say i want to connect to the 2 on site servers with one connection or one path , an if one is down the second is up with the same data on it

                  If you want a failover cluster for a file server, use Starwind and do your failover at the platform level (hypervisor), not in the VM. For other workloads, like databases, you want the application to handle it.

                  @scottalanmiller , thanks

                  instead of the hypervizor failover, what do you suggest for a sync service in linux to just copy the differtintals between files, what do you think about rsync, would it be adequate than the hypervisor

                  RSync works quite well.

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                  • GodfatherX64G
                    GodfatherX64 @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 , is this question for me?
                    if it is, to me a proper storage server would be an enterprise server hardware with a stable server os, physical or virtual (i too prefer virtual), with a lot of storage features :D, and a scalable storage system for future expansion

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @GodfatherX64
                      last edited by

                      @GodfatherX64 said in Advice On a New Setup:

                      @DustinB3403 , is this question for me?
                      if it is, to me a proper storage server would be an enterprise server hardware with a stable server os, physical or virtual (i too prefer virtual), with a lot of storage features :D, and a scalable storage system for future expansion

                      So Supermicro would be a good option (if you could get it in your area). Dell of course is another option, which you don't seem to have any issues getting.

                      Storage features being? Scalable storage has already been discussed in this topic.

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                        Darek Hamann @scottalanmiller
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                        Indeed, StarWind could do a great job in case of clustering required for this environment.
                        With Ceph it could be a tough job to make it work properly, especially in terms of the amount of time spent on that.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Darek Hamann
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                          @Darek-Hamann said in Advice On a New Setup:

                          Indeed, StarWind could do a great job in case of clustering required for this environment.
                          With Ceph it could be a tough job to make it work properly, especially in terms of the amount of time spent on that.

                          And performance, too.

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                            dyasny @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller there's also the purple series, they are pretty much on par with the reds

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @dyasny
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                              @dyasny said in Advice On a New Setup:

                              @scottalanmiller there's also the purple series, they are pretty much on par with the reds

                              In theory they are intended for special cases like video recording.

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                                dyasny @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Advice On a New Setup:

                                In theory they are intended for special cases like video recording.

                                Yup, pretty much the same thing - intended for always-on, without too much heavy IO. Frankly, I doubt there's anything significantly different under the hood there.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @dyasny
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                                  @dyasny said in Advice On a New Setup:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Advice On a New Setup:

                                  In theory they are intended for special cases like video recording.

                                  Yup, pretty much the same thing - intended for always-on, without too much heavy IO. Frankly, I doubt there's anything significantly different under the hood there.

                                  I've looked at the specs before and could not really find anything.

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