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    • pmonchoP
      pmoncho @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

      @brrabill said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

      Just think of what a different discussion this would be if MS just allowed you to spin up a free AD server, that just had AD, like Hyper-V Server.

      Just imagine if a free AD server existed out there!

      Oh wait...

      I'm guessing you mean Samba? Or am I missing something?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @pmoncho
        last edited by

        @pmoncho said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

        @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

        @brrabill said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

        Just think of what a different discussion this would be if MS just allowed you to spin up a free AD server, that just had AD, like Hyper-V Server.

        Just imagine if a free AD server existed out there!

        Oh wait...

        I'm guessing you mean Samba? Or am I missing something?

        Yes, Samba will do AD for free. And is available on many platforms.

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        • CloudKnightC
          CloudKnight
          last edited by

          I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @CloudKnight
            last edited by

            @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

            I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

            Sure, but what does that really affect? Forest level limitation is nothing like an old code limitation. Nothing wrong with using a 2008 R2 Forest level.

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            • pmonchoP
              pmoncho @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

              @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

              I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

              Sure, but what does that really affect? Forest level limitation is nothing like an old code limitation. Nothing wrong with using a 2008 R2 Forest level.

              If I am reading this correctly, I believe Samba 4.4 and higher can go to 2012 R2.

              https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Raising_the_Functional_Levels

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              • CloudKnightC
                CloudKnight @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller Very true, nothing wrong at all in using. believe there was some improvements to DFS-R in higher Forrest levels, but if your obviously using Samba in your environment you probably would not be using this role anyway.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @pmoncho
                  last edited by

                  @pmoncho said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                  @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                  I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

                  Sure, but what does that really affect? Forest level limitation is nothing like an old code limitation. Nothing wrong with using a 2008 R2 Forest level.

                  If I am reading this correctly, I believe Samba 4.4 and higher can go to 2012 R2.

                  https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Raising_the_Functional_Levels

                  Rumor is, but I'm not sure that 4.4 is widely available yet?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @CloudKnight
                    last edited by

                    @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                    @scottalanmiller Very true, nothing wrong at all in using. believe there was some improvements to DFS-R in higher Forrest levels, but if your obviously using Samba in your environment you probably would not be using this role anyway.

                    Right, generally not.

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                    • RomoR
                      Romo @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                      @pmoncho said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                      @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                      I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

                      Sure, but what does that really affect? Forest level limitation is nothing like an old code limitation. Nothing wrong with using a 2008 R2 Forest level.

                      If I am reading this correctly, I believe Samba 4.4 and higher can go to 2012 R2.

                      https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Raising_the_Functional_Levels

                      Rumor is, but I'm not sure that 4.4 is widely available yet?

                      Even newer versions =).

                      Centos 7.5 is using 4.7.1
                      Fedora 28 is using 4.8.5

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                      • pmonchoP
                        pmoncho @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                        @pmoncho said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                        @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                        I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

                        Sure, but what does that really affect? Forest level limitation is nothing like an old code limitation. Nothing wrong with using a 2008 R2 Forest level.

                        If I am reading this correctly, I believe Samba 4.4 and higher can go to 2012 R2.

                        https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Raising_the_Functional_Levels

                        Rumor is, but I'm not sure that 4.4 is widely available yet?

                        smbstatus on Ubuntu 18.1 shows Samba 4.7.6.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Romo
                          last edited by

                          @romo said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                          @pmoncho said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                          @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                          I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

                          Sure, but what does that really affect? Forest level limitation is nothing like an old code limitation. Nothing wrong with using a 2008 R2 Forest level.

                          If I am reading this correctly, I believe Samba 4.4 and higher can go to 2012 R2.

                          https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Raising_the_Functional_Levels

                          Rumor is, but I'm not sure that 4.4 is widely available yet?

                          Even newer versions =).

                          Centos 7.5 is using 4.7.1
                          Fedora 28 is using 4.8.5

                          Oh wow, nevermind, lol.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @pmoncho
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                            @pmoncho said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                            @pmoncho said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                            @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                            I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

                            Sure, but what does that really affect? Forest level limitation is nothing like an old code limitation. Nothing wrong with using a 2008 R2 Forest level.

                            If I am reading this correctly, I believe Samba 4.4 and higher can go to 2012 R2.

                            https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Raising_the_Functional_Levels

                            Rumor is, but I'm not sure that 4.4 is widely available yet?

                            smbstatus on Ubuntu 18.1 shows Samba 4.7.6.

                            Is that for 18.04 or 18.10, the latter released a few days ago (I need to go update some systems.)

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                            • CloudKnightC
                              CloudKnight @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              0_1539971107331_samba.png

                              yep, using 18.04.1 here...

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                So likely a bit newer now.

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                                • pmonchoP
                                  pmoncho @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                                  @pmoncho said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                                  @pmoncho said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                                  @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                                  I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

                                  Sure, but what does that really affect? Forest level limitation is nothing like an old code limitation. Nothing wrong with using a 2008 R2 Forest level.

                                  If I am reading this correctly, I believe Samba 4.4 and higher can go to 2012 R2.

                                  https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Raising_the_Functional_Levels

                                  Rumor is, but I'm not sure that 4.4 is widely available yet?

                                  smbstatus on Ubuntu 18.1 shows Samba 4.7.6.

                                  Is that for 18.04 or 18.10, the latter released a few days ago (I need to go update some systems.)

                                  My bad, it is 18.04.1

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    I hadn't even realized it was out. I suppose I was out of town when it happened. But I feel like there was a lack of fanfare going on. I had heard of ElementaryOS going to 5.0 without hearing that Ubuntu 18.10 was out!

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @CloudKnight
                                      last edited by

                                      @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                                      I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

                                      If you're not using Windows AD, what's it matter?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                        last edited by

                                        @obsolesce said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                                        @stuartjordan said in Handling DNS in a Single Active Directory Domain Controller Environment:

                                        I believe the forest level with Samba can only be 2008R2 though.

                                        If you're not using Windows AD, what's it matter?

                                        If he's merging in DFS, it might. It's rare to do, but could matter.

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                                        • CloudKnightC
                                          CloudKnight
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                                          https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/windows/it-pro/windows-server-2008-R2-and-2008/cc754918(v=ws.10)

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            0_1539973773529_Screenshot from 2018-10-19 13-29-28.png

                                            So 2012 R2 benefits...

                                            1. KDC support for claims. This is a real benefit, but pretty "meh".
                                            2. New authentication policies. Whoop tee do.
                                            3. New authentication policy silos. Even more whoop tee do.

                                            That's it. Two new versions and that is all of the improvements.

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