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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Vultr does SkyLake processors from their $10 and up plans. Way more performance than the older procs. SkySilk does lower end procs until you get to their super expensive plans. That might be quite a bit difference in CPU performance.

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        scottalanmiller @brandon220
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        @brandon220 said in Testing SkySilk:

        What do you all think of them using Proxmox as the base virtualization platform? I have no experience with it but it does look appealing. Thoughts?

        ProxMox is a joke as it is. Using it as their base is ridiculous. Given that they are a pure Linux provider, using KVM at all doesn't make much sense. They should be only on LXC, I would think.

        That is literally enough for me to no longer consider them a serious provider in any way.

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        • black3dynamiteB
          black3dynamite @brandon220
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          @brandon220 said in Testing SkySilk:

          What do you all think of them using Proxmox as the base virtualization platform? I have no experience with it but it does look appealing. Thoughts?

          I do like Proxmox Web Interface.

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            bnrstnr @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Testing SkySilk:

            @brandon220 said in Testing SkySilk:

            What do you all think of them using Proxmox as the base virtualization platform? I have no experience with it but it does look appealing. Thoughts?

            ProxMox is a joke as it is. Using it as their base is ridiculous. Given that they are a pure Linux provider, using KVM at all doesn't make much sense. They should be only on LXC, I would think.

            That is literally enough for me to no longer consider them a serious provider in any way.

            https://help.skysilk.com/support/discussions/topics/9000041880

            Our current infrastructure is based on LXC containers, which are served via ProxMox virtualization. Eventually, our goal is to be able to offer multiple types of virtualization such as KVM and others, but at the time of this writing our main focus and product offerings are centered around ProxMox.
            
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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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              @black3dynamite said in Testing SkySilk:

              @brandon220 said in Testing SkySilk:

              What do you all think of them using Proxmox as the base virtualization platform? I have no experience with it but it does look appealing. Thoughts?

              I do like Proxmox Web Interface.

              Looks nice, but the underlying product and the company behind it....

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @bnrstnr
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                @bnrstnr said in Testing SkySilk:

                @scottalanmiller said in Testing SkySilk:

                @brandon220 said in Testing SkySilk:

                What do you all think of them using Proxmox as the base virtualization platform? I have no experience with it but it does look appealing. Thoughts?

                ProxMox is a joke as it is. Using it as their base is ridiculous. Given that they are a pure Linux provider, using KVM at all doesn't make much sense. They should be only on LXC, I would think.

                That is literally enough for me to no longer consider them a serious provider in any way.

                https://help.skysilk.com/support/discussions/topics/9000041880

                Our current infrastructure is based on LXC containers, which are served via ProxMox virtualization. Eventually, our goal is to be able to offer multiple types of virtualization such as KVM and others, but at the time of this writing our main focus and product offerings are centered around ProxMox.
                

                That doesn't make sense. ProxMox is a management layer, not virtualization. ProxMox' purpose is to do KVM and LXC transparently. But mixing the two on the same hardware is nutty unless you have only one box in your entire environment. And even then, nutty, but not AS nutty.

                So their logic makes no sense. They have to have KVM in place to have ProxMox. So their statement is either a bold faced lie, or an admission that they have zero clue what they are doing.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  There is no reason to have ProxMox if you are doing LXC. LXC has great interfaces as it is. ProxMox would actually just make things slower, more fragile, and more difficult to extend.

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                  • black3dynamiteB
                    black3dynamite
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                    That sounds lazy of them to use Proxmox for LXC. Why not two separate servers, one for LXC and the other for KVM?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                      @black3dynamite said in Testing SkySilk:

                      That sounds lazy of them to use Proxmox for LXC. Why not two separate servers, one for LXC and the other for KVM?

                      Exactly. They have to build a cloud interface on top either way. ProxMox doesn't appear to be adding anything of value.

                      My guess is, like Cloud@Cost, they are using a third party product because they don't understand the moving parts involved and think that they can quickly get up and running with the Jurassic Park Effect and hope that things don't fall apart on them. Sounds, to me, like they built a product that they don't know how to support or how it actually works. All development, no operations.

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                      • black3dynamiteB
                        black3dynamite
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                        Are they using Proxmox Interface or a custom one on top of Proxmox?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                          @black3dynamite said in Testing SkySilk:

                          Are they using Proxmox Interface or a custom one on top of Proxmox?

                          Has to be custom, no cloud in ProxMox.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            "Ceph is a trademark of Red Hat, Inc. Proxmox is a trademark of InkTank Storage, Inc. "

                            Actually InkTank Storage is long gone. They made CEPH and were bought by Red Hat. InkTank and Red Hat have nothing to do with ProxMox. RedHat is American, ProxMox is Austrian.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              We have @Matt_SkySilk around here now. Maybe he has some insight or information for us. 🙂 Just noticed that he had joined the community.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                                @aaronstuder said in Testing SkySilk:

                                My first VPS took about 1 minute to come online. Running benchmarks now.

                                Currently testing the Basic Nano plan.

                                How did your benchmarks come out? What did you use? GeekBench?

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                                  Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller Benchmark Failed. Discontinued testing. You can't reload OS.

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                                    scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                                    @aaronstuder said in Testing SkySilk:

                                    @scottalanmiller Benchmark Failed. Discontinued testing. You can't reload OS.

                                    Can't reload? In what sense?

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                                      Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Testing SkySilk:

                                      Can't reload? In what sense?

                                      In any sense.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                                        @aaronstuder said in Testing SkySilk:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Testing SkySilk:

                                        Can't reload? In what sense?

                                        In any sense.

                                        Like, if anything goes wrong with it, you are just hosed?

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22
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                                          Reload OS? Meaning you can't reinstall?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                            @wirestyle22 said in Testing SkySilk:

                                            Reload OS? Meaning you can't reinstall?

                                            Apparently, that's pretty rough. I'm guessing that there is no ISO loading, which I didn't notice, so likely there is not. Given that they are on LXC, that would be hard to do. You have to rely on them to provide good, up to date images. Which is why them not being up to date is a bigger deal. Not that you can't update from say Fedora 27 to 28, but it's not fast, nor a good process. So restoring a simple server on there that would be seconds on another platform might take an hour or more and manual steps!

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