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    • dave247D
      dave247 @scottalanmiller
      last edited by dave247

      @scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

      $4

      Wait, hosted Exchange through MS is $4? I thought it was $5 per month. That's what Minion Queen quoted me for just hosted Exchange.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @dave247
        last edited by

        @dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

        @scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

        $4

        $4? I thought it was $5 per month. That's what Minion Queen quoted me for just hosted Exchange.

        $5 is for O365. Includes OneDrive for Business, Sharepoint, Office Online.
        $4 is for Hosted Exchange from MS.

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        • dave247D
          dave247 @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

          @dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

          @scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

          $4

          $4? I thought it was $5 per month. That's what Minion Queen quoted me for just hosted Exchange.

          $5 is for O365. Includes OneDrive for Business, Sharepoint, Office Online.
          $4 is for Hosted Exchange from MS.

          bangs head on desk

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by

            https://i.imgur.com/HO6fRzW.png
            https://i.imgur.com/egazLgM.png

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            • dave247D
              dave247 @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

              https://i.imgur.com/HO6fRzW.png
              https://i.imgur.com/egazLgM.png

              Yeah, I saw that several times. It's the only thing I've seen. Where the hell is the thing that shows the $4 price?

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by Dashrender

                https://i.imgur.com/99iNNqx.png

                https://products.office.com/en-us/exchange/exchange-online

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                  @tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                  You can get the O365 subscriptions cheaper by going through someone like AppRiver.

                  Cheaper than Microsoft direct I mean.

                  Yes, that's what you watch out for. GoDaddy is cheaper, too. You don't get O365, it just looks like it.

                  I've personally been through this with AppRiver. You get the full O365.. even teh same licensing business E1 and E3... the only difference is tht it's cheaper and you don't pay Microsoft.

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                  • dave247D
                    dave247 @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                    https://i.imgur.com/99iNNqx.png

                    https://products.office.com/en-us/exchange/exchange-online

                    ok thanks. I don't know why I'm having so much trouble today.
                    https://products.office.com/en-us/exchange/compare-microsoft-exchange-online-plans

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                    • dbeatoD
                      dbeato @dave247
                      last edited by

                      @dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                      @dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                      https://i.imgur.com/99iNNqx.png

                      https://products.office.com/en-us/exchange/exchange-online

                      ok thanks. I don't know why I'm having so much trouble today.
                      https://products.office.com/en-us/exchange/compare-microsoft-exchange-online-plans

                      It is a Monday 🙂

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                      • dave247D
                        dave247 @Obsolesce
                        last edited by

                        @tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                        @scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                        @tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                        You can get the O365 subscriptions cheaper by going through someone like AppRiver.

                        Cheaper than Microsoft direct I mean.

                        Yes, that's what you watch out for. GoDaddy is cheaper, too. You don't get O365, it just looks like it.

                        I've personally been through this with AppRiver. You get the full O365.. even teh same licensing business E1 and E3... the only difference is tht it's cheaper and you don't pay Microsoft.

                        Well everyone here is telling me not to go through a reseller and to go direct thru MS via a partner.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @dave247
                          last edited by

                          @dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                          @dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                          https://i.imgur.com/HO6fRzW.png
                          https://i.imgur.com/egazLgM.png

                          Yeah, I saw that several times. It's the only thing I've seen. Where the hell is the thing that shows the $4 price?

                          MS really doesn't want you to buy this - don't ask me why, I can't imagine that offering you these other things for the extra $1/m really makes them that much more money.. but.. maybe it really does because maybe, people in the position to buy O365 Business Essentials is that unlikely to actually use those features, therefore it's just extra money in MS's pocket.

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                          • dave247D
                            dave247 @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                            @dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                            @dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                            https://i.imgur.com/HO6fRzW.png
                            https://i.imgur.com/egazLgM.png

                            Yeah, I saw that several times. It's the only thing I've seen. Where the hell is the thing that shows the $4 price?

                            MS really doesn't want you to buy this - don't ask me why, I can't imagine that offering you these other things for the extra $1/m really makes them that much more money.. but.. maybe it really does because maybe, people in the position to buy O365 Business Essentials is that unlikely to actually use those features, therefore it's just extra money in MS's pocket.

                            I feel like I'm on crazy pills today.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @dave247
                              last edited by

                              @dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                              @tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                              @scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                              @tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                              You can get the O365 subscriptions cheaper by going through someone like AppRiver.

                              Cheaper than Microsoft direct I mean.

                              Yes, that's what you watch out for. GoDaddy is cheaper, too. You don't get O365, it just looks like it.

                              I've personally been through this with AppRiver. You get the full O365.. even teh same licensing business E1 and E3... the only difference is tht it's cheaper and you don't pay Microsoft.

                              Well everyone here is telling me not to go through a reseller and to go direct thru MS via a partner.

                              yep, so Danielle should have offered you two choices, possible more depending on your needs.

                              If only offered one or two, they would be hosted exchange ($4/u/m) vs O365 Business Essentials ($5/u/m) (hosted exchange plus online Office and ODfB).

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                              • ObsolesceO
                                Obsolesce @dave247
                                last edited by

                                @dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                                @tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                                @scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                                @tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                                You can get the O365 subscriptions cheaper by going through someone like AppRiver.

                                Cheaper than Microsoft direct I mean.

                                Yes, that's what you watch out for. GoDaddy is cheaper, too. You don't get O365, it just looks like it.

                                I've personally been through this with AppRiver. You get the full O365.. even teh same licensing business E1 and E3... the only difference is tht it's cheaper and you don't pay Microsoft.

                                Well everyone here is telling me not to go through a reseller and to go direct thru MS via a partner.

                                We had all of our O365 licenses through microsoft for x amount a month.

                                Then we switched through our consultant who is set up through AppRiver.

                                Everything is the same, except now the price is lower. We use E1 and E3 licenses.

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                                • dave247D
                                  dave247 @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                                  @dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                                  @tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                                  @tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                                  You can get the O365 subscriptions cheaper by going through someone like AppRiver.

                                  Cheaper than Microsoft direct I mean.

                                  Yes, that's what you watch out for. GoDaddy is cheaper, too. You don't get O365, it just looks like it.

                                  I've personally been through this with AppRiver. You get the full O365.. even teh same licensing business E1 and E3... the only difference is tht it's cheaper and you don't pay Microsoft.

                                  Well everyone here is telling me not to go through a reseller and to go direct thru MS via a partner.

                                  yep, so Danielle should have offered you two choices, possible more depending on your needs.

                                  If only offered one or two, they would be hosted exchange ($4/u/m) vs O365 Business Essentials ($5/u/m) (hosted exchange plus online Office and ODfB).

                                  She's checking on it. She thought the $5 one was the only option and that they weren't offering the $4 one anymore.

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                                  • dave247D
                                    dave247 @Obsolesce
                                    last edited by

                                    @tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                                    @dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                                    @tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                                    @tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                                    You can get the O365 subscriptions cheaper by going through someone like AppRiver.

                                    Cheaper than Microsoft direct I mean.

                                    Yes, that's what you watch out for. GoDaddy is cheaper, too. You don't get O365, it just looks like it.

                                    I've personally been through this with AppRiver. You get the full O365.. even teh same licensing business E1 and E3... the only difference is tht it's cheaper and you don't pay Microsoft.

                                    Well everyone here is telling me not to go through a reseller and to go direct thru MS via a partner.

                                    We had all of our O365 licenses through microsoft for x amount a month.

                                    Then we switched through our consultant who is set up through AppRiver.

                                    Everything is the same, except now the price is lower. We use E1 and E3 licenses.

                                    I am just confused now.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @Obsolesce
                                      last edited by Dashrender

                                      @tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                                      @dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                                      @tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                                      @tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                                      You can get the O365 subscriptions cheaper by going through someone like AppRiver.

                                      Cheaper than Microsoft direct I mean.

                                      Yes, that's what you watch out for. GoDaddy is cheaper, too. You don't get O365, it just looks like it.

                                      I've personally been through this with AppRiver. You get the full O365.. even teh same licensing business E1 and E3... the only difference is tht it's cheaper and you don't pay Microsoft.

                                      Well everyone here is telling me not to go through a reseller and to go direct thru MS via a partner.

                                      We had all of our O365 licenses through microsoft for x amount a month.

                                      Then we switched through our consultant who is set up through AppRiver.

                                      Everything is the same, except now the price is lower. We use E1 and E3 licenses.

                                      Tim - are those VAR licenses or partner licenses?

                                      Scott and I are pretty sure they are VAR licenses. If they were partner licenses, they could not be any less than the MS list price.

                                      And while you might not have any limitations caused by Appriver today, you could tomorrow. If Appriver stopped paying their bill (ok not likely, unless they go bankrupt) MS will cut off all of Appriver's customers from access.
                                      Additionally - assuming these are VAR licenses, not partner licenses, all, 100% issues must flow through Appriver. You have no recourse to reach out to MS directly for problems.

                                      While this might not be an issue for you - there are countless people on SW and redit who do have problems with other vendors like GoDaddy and Rackspace because they are connected via VAR licenses - and therefore must go through the VAR for any issues.

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce
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                                        Through Microsoft:
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                                        Through AppRiver:
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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:

                                          If Appriver stopped paying their bill (ok not likely, unless they go bankrupt) MS will cut off all of Appriver's customers from access.

                                          The thing about this, is that you can easily switch back your licensing to MS... it doesn't interrupt anything. It's the same license. What changes is who you are paying.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            That's two totally different products... E3 vs Business Premium. $20/u/m vs $12.50/u/m

                                            https://i.imgur.com/cxUwiJQ.png

                                            Looks like MS lowered the Business premium cost a lot... it used to be close to $20/u/m like E3...

                                            This is what it includes, of course, plus email.

                                            https://i.imgur.com/wqRf4bb.png

                                            https://products.office.com/en-us/business/office-365-business-premium

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