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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @PenguinWrangler
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      @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

      @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

      @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

      @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

      Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

      AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

      Time to move everything to ARM.

      This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

      No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

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      • PenguinWranglerP
        PenguinWrangler @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

        @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

        @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

        @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

        @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

        Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

        AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

        Time to move everything to ARM.

        This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

        No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

        I was thinking more bold business moves. There are things they could do that would really help make that happen. It would take their leadership to act boldly and take risk.

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        • travisdh1T
          travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

          @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

          @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

          @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

          @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

          Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

          AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

          Time to move everything to ARM.

          This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

          No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

          The ARM powered Chromebooks will take over... well, if I have my way anyway.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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            @travisdh1 said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

            @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

            @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

            @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

            @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

            @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

            Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

            AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

            Time to move everything to ARM.

            This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

            No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

            The ARM powered Chromebooks will take over... well, if I have my way anyway.

            For sure. We need slightly higher powered hardware that is similar for Linux desktops, too.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @momurda
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              @momurda said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

              Isnt this 10s of millions of computers affected? I think just about every single pc and server on my network is on this list:

              6th, 7th and 8th Generation Intel Core processors
              Intel Xeon E3-1200 v5 and v6 processors
              Intel Xeon Scalable processors
              Intel Xeon W processors
              Intel Atom C3000 processors
              Apollo Lake Intel Atom E3900 series
              Apollo Lake Intel Pentiums
              Celeron N and J series processors
              

              huh, I think that means less than half my machines are on that list.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                @travisdh1 said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                Time to move everything to ARM.

                This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

                The ARM powered Chromebooks will take over... well, if I have my way anyway.

                For sure. We need slightly higher powered hardware that is similar for Linux desktops, too.

                exactly!

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                  @travisdh1 said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                  @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                  @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                  Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                  AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                  Time to move everything to ARM.

                  This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                  No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

                  The ARM powered Chromebooks will take over... well, if I have my way anyway.

                  For sure. We need slightly higher powered hardware that is similar for Linux desktops, too.

                  Yeah, for some reason, I don't think we need those 64 core CPUs for a desktop!

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                    @travisdh1 said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                    @travisdh1 said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                    @penguinwrangler said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                    @stacksofplates said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                    Yeah, this is nearly everyone affected. Thank goodness for AMD and ARM.

                    AMD isn’t much better. They have PSP which is just as dangerous.

                    Time to move everything to ARM.

                    This is ARM's time to make a bold move to capture a good part of the x86 server market.

                    No bold move needed, just need people to start selling ARM desktops!!

                    The ARM powered Chromebooks will take over... well, if I have my way anyway.

                    For sure. We need slightly higher powered hardware that is similar for Linux desktops, too.

                    Yeah, for some reason, I don't think we need those 64 core CPUs for a desktop!

                    It's octocore, 8GB machines.

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                      StorageNinja Vendor @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller There are ARM servers that can do 240Gbps of network throughput for NFV. Don't think the mobile stuff is all that exists....

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                        StorageNinja Vendor @StorageNinja
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                        @storageninja

                        ARM also attacking HPC.

                        https://3s81si1s5ygj3mzby34dq6qf-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Isam_bench1.png

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @StorageNinja
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                          @storageninja said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                          @storageninja

                          ARM also attacking HPC.

                          https://3s81si1s5ygj3mzby34dq6qf-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Isam_bench1.png

                          HPC is an awesome use for ARM. A big thing is getting the software companies to catch up.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @StorageNinja
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                            @storageninja said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                            @scottalanmiller There are ARM servers that can do 240Gbps of network throughput for NFV. Don't think the mobile stuff is all that exists....

                            Right, like I keep saying, just need people to build desktops, don't need anything from ARM.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
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                              Here is a program Intel put together to tell you if you are vulnerable to this and several other security flaws they have found.

                              https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27150

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @dashrender said in Intel finds critical holes in secret Management Engine hidden in tons of desktop, server chipsets:

                                Here is a program Intel put together to tell you if you are vulnerable to this and several other security flaws they have found.

                                https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27150

                                But be warned, it's written by a company known to not understand security or be concerned about its customers. So...

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