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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in SW rant time:

      @dustinb3403 said in SW rant time:

      @scottalanmiller said in SW rant time:

      @dustinb3403 said in SW rant time:

      Is SW taking the ability to close your accounts away?

      I don't think so. What makes you ask?

      Just the way you phrased your previous remark.

      My point was that he made an account and immediately closed it. He could have just skipped the first step.

      But he didn't, it was just his first post. The account was created back in 2015.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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        @dustinb3403 said in SW rant time:

        @scottalanmiller said in SW rant time:

        @dustinb3403 said in SW rant time:

        @scottalanmiller said in SW rant time:

        @dustinb3403 said in SW rant time:

        Is SW taking the ability to close your accounts away?

        I don't think so. What makes you ask?

        Just the way you phrased your previous remark.

        My point was that he made an account and immediately closed it. He could have just skipped the first step.

        But he didn't, it was just his first post. The account was created back in 2015.

        Oh, I missed that. How odd to want to close it after a few years.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said

          Oh, I missed that. How odd to want to close it after a few years.

          Some people can only take so much.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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            @brrabill said in SW rant time:

            @scottalanmiller said

            Oh, I missed that. How odd to want to close it after a few years.

            Some people can only take so much.

            But you just... don't log in. it implies that he's been logging in and lurking for two years?

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            • computerchipC
              computerchip @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in SW rant time:

              @brrabill said in SW rant time:

              @scottalanmiller said

              Oh, I missed that. How odd to want to close it after a few years.

              Some people can only take so much.

              But you just... don't log in. it implies that he's been logging in and lurking for two years?

              You know how some people are paranoid. I was looking through old posts here last night and saw where Dennis Kelly as asking to remove his account here. I don't know exactly what paranoid people think will happen if they leave their account open though.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @computerchip
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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @computerchip
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                  @computerchip said in SW rant time:

                  @scottalanmiller said in SW rant time:

                  @brrabill said in SW rant time:

                  @scottalanmiller said

                  Oh, I missed that. How odd to want to close it after a few years.

                  Some people can only take so much.

                  But you just... don't log in. it implies that he's been logging in and lurking for two years?

                  You know how some people are paranoid. I was looking through old posts here last night and saw where Dennis Kelly as asking to remove his account here. I don't know exactly what paranoid people think will happen if they leave their account open though.

                  That's not about paranoia. that's people upset with the community and trying to rant.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                    @dustinb3403 said in SW rant time:

                    @computerchip said in SW rant time:

                    @scottalanmiller said in SW rant time:

                    @brrabill said in SW rant time:

                    @scottalanmiller said

                    Oh, I missed that. How odd to want to close it after a few years.

                    Some people can only take so much.

                    But you just... don't log in. it implies that he's been logging in and lurking for two years?

                    You know how some people are paranoid. I was looking through old posts here last night and saw where Dennis Kelly as asking to remove his account here. I don't know exactly what paranoid people think will happen if they leave their account open though.

                    The right to be forgotten means we don't get to ask those kinds of questions though.

                    If I chose to close my account, that data has to go away at some point. Not immediately, but at some point.

                    Closing accounts does not imply the right to be forgotten. Closing the account is the right to be disconnected.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                        @dustinb3403 said in SW rant time:

                        @scottalanmiller said in SW rant time:

                        @dustinb3403 said in SW rant time:

                        @computerchip said in SW rant time:

                        @scottalanmiller said in SW rant time:

                        @brrabill said in SW rant time:

                        @scottalanmiller said

                        Oh, I missed that. How odd to want to close it after a few years.

                        Some people can only take so much.

                        But you just... don't log in. it implies that he's been logging in and lurking for two years?

                        You know how some people are paranoid. I was looking through old posts here last night and saw where Dennis Kelly as asking to remove his account here. I don't know exactly what paranoid people think will happen if they leave their account open though.

                        The right to be forgotten means we don't get to ask those kinds of questions though.

                        If I chose to close my account, that data has to go away at some point. Not immediately, but at some point.

                        Closing accounts does not imply the right to be forgotten. Closing the account is the right to be disconnected.

                        There is a very tight correlation between the two.

                        What correlation? I see none.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            It's an inverse correlation. Deleting an account is voluntarily removing the ability to control content by disassociating yourself with it.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                              @dustinb3403 said in SW rant time:

                              @scottalanmiller said in SW rant time:

                              @dustinb3403 said in SW rant time:

                              @scottalanmiller said in SW rant time:

                              @dustinb3403 said in SW rant time:

                              @computerchip said in SW rant time:

                              @scottalanmiller said in SW rant time:

                              @brrabill said in SW rant time:

                              @scottalanmiller said

                              Oh, I missed that. How odd to want to close it after a few years.

                              Some people can only take so much.

                              But you just... don't log in. it implies that he's been logging in and lurking for two years?

                              You know how some people are paranoid. I was looking through old posts here last night and saw where Dennis Kelly as asking to remove his account here. I don't know exactly what paranoid people think will happen if they leave their account open though.

                              The right to be forgotten means we don't get to ask those kinds of questions though.

                              If I chose to close my account, that data has to go away at some point. Not immediately, but at some point.

                              Closing accounts does not imply the right to be forgotten. Closing the account is the right to be disconnected.

                              There is a very tight correlation between the two.

                              What correlation? I see none.

                              The correlation of "oh I'm closing my account, everything I've ever posted will disappear (eventually)"

                              That correlation does not exist, in any way. It's simply not a thing.

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                                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                  @dustinb3403 said in SW rant time:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in SW rant time:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in SW rant time:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in SW rant time:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in SW rant time:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in SW rant time:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in SW rant time:

                                  @computerchip said in SW rant time:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in SW rant time:

                                  @brrabill said in SW rant time:

                                  @scottalanmiller said

                                  Oh, I missed that. How odd to want to close it after a few years.

                                  Some people can only take so much.

                                  But you just... don't log in. it implies that he's been logging in and lurking for two years?

                                  You know how some people are paranoid. I was looking through old posts here last night and saw where Dennis Kelly as asking to remove his account here. I don't know exactly what paranoid people think will happen if they leave their account open though.

                                  The right to be forgotten means we don't get to ask those kinds of questions though.

                                  If I chose to close my account, that data has to go away at some point. Not immediately, but at some point.

                                  Closing accounts does not imply the right to be forgotten. Closing the account is the right to be disconnected.

                                  There is a very tight correlation between the two.

                                  What correlation? I see none.

                                  The correlation of "oh I'm closing my account, everything I've ever posted will disappear (eventually)"

                                  That correlation does not exist, in any way. It's simply not a thing.

                                  Source - examples of where content should be removed

                                  I see nothing in there related to the association you are discussing. Please provide the quote to where deleting an account is legally associated to the removal of content referring to that user.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    The "right to be forgotten" is problematic because, for example, what if ML takes a screenshot of SW and posts it here. You expect that deleting the account on SW should automatically trigger a removal of content here?

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                        @dustinb3403 said in SW rant time:

                                        @scottalanmiller "Those in favour of the right to be forgotten cite its necessity due to issues such as revenge porn sites appearing in search engine listings for a person's name, as well as instances of these results referencing petty crimes individuals may have committed many years ago. The central concern here being, these results can unduly play a prominent role in a person's online presence almost indefinitely if not removed."

                                        First paragraph, reference 6.

                                        Definitely not related. Nothing in there says anything about what we are discussing.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                            @dustinb3403 said in SW rant time:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in SW rant time:

                                            The "right to be forgotten" is problematic because, for example, what if ML takes a screenshot of SW and posts it here. You expect that deleting the account on SW should automatically trigger a removal of content here?

                                            Yes and no. If there is value in a post (say I cross posted before my post was deleted by a mod) and I wanted it here.

                                            If I posted information regarding my employer by mistake, and deleted that information. Someone has the ability to go into google cache and retrieve that information, for a duration.

                                            Eventually though that information gets deleted.

                                            No, it does not. Not if people quote it, for example. Your understanding of the Internet and storage systems is fundamentally incorrect, leading you to odd conclusions.

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