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    Choosing a SIP Provider - What Should I Look For?

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    • wrx7mW
      wrx7m
      last edited by wrx7m

      My company is anticipating much higher call volume for our customer/tech support departments and so I am thinking this is a great time to move off of our single PRI and over to a SIP trunk. I don't have too much experience with SIP so what are the specifics I should look for when choosing a provider?

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      • EddieJenningsE
        EddieJennings
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        Ping times between your PBX and the SIP providers points of presence as well as ping times between your office and the PBX (if the PBX is off site).

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          NEver get SIP from an incumbent line carrier. They "own" you and will leverage it later. It's too dangerous.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Voip.ms and Twilio are the plances to look first.

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            • NetworkNerdN
              NetworkNerd @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Choosing a SIP Provider - What Should I Look For?:

              Voip.ms and Twilio are the plances to look first.

              I'd consider Intelepeer as well. We used them at my previous company, and they were very good.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch
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                I recommend VoIP.ms and Flowroute.

                As soon as I have time to spin up Twilio at a site, I will test it out and likely recommend it also.

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                • EddieJenningsE
                  EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Choosing a SIP Provider - What Should I Look For?:

                  NEver get SIP from an incumbent line carrier. They "own" you and will leverage it later. It's too dangerous.

                  Ha! Got my customer service record from Windstream today, and the rep tried to sell me their SIP service 😉

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                  • wrx7mW
                    wrx7m @EddieJennings
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                    @eddiejennings said in Choosing a SIP Provider - What Should I Look For?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Choosing a SIP Provider - What Should I Look For?:

                    NEver get SIP from an incumbent line carrier. They "own" you and will leverage it later. It's too dangerous.

                    Ha! Got my customer service record from Windstream today, and the rep tried to sell me their SIP service 😉

                    I dealt with Windstream for a branch office in FL for several years. We had a T1 and PRI with them. What a PITA. I was glad when management realized that it isn't worth the money to have an office for 3 people, 3000+ miles away who were almost always traveling.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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                      @wrx7m said in Choosing a SIP Provider - What Should I Look For?:

                      @eddiejennings said in Choosing a SIP Provider - What Should I Look For?:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Choosing a SIP Provider - What Should I Look For?:

                      NEver get SIP from an incumbent line carrier. They "own" you and will leverage it later. It's too dangerous.

                      Ha! Got my customer service record from Windstream today, and the rep tried to sell me their SIP service 😉

                      I dealt with Windstream for a branch office in FL for several years. We had a T1 and PRI with them. What a PITA. I was glad when management realized that it isn't worth the money to have an office for 3 people, 3000+ miles away who were almost always traveling.

                      Well.... Windstream. ha ha

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                      • NetworkNerdN
                        NetworkNerd
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                        Also look at the way things are priced. Some carriers charge based on number of concurrent calls, while other charge a low per-minute fee or give you a bucket of minutes and charge a small overage fee if you go over that bucket amount. Find out how much the new carrier charges for things like inbound / outbound CNAM, how much they charge per DID you have using their service, etc.

                        Knowing the max concurrent calls happening right now can help you plan for how much bandwidth gets used. If you plan for 100 Kbps per concurrent call of internet bandwidth needed, that's a decent estimate if the provider is using G711u as the codec (less if G729).

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                        • wrx7mW
                          wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller - I can also add TelePacific, now TPX Communications to the list of carriers I would never recommend. We had them for bonded T1s when I first got here, because there was no fiber for miles. We needed more bandwidth and the only option was to go fixed wireless. Ugh. That was a frustrating 3 years.

                          I was so happy to get our current ISP, Impulse with a 50/50 dedicated circuit. Now we have a 150/150 dedicated circuit. Finally and ISP that I would recommend.

                          We still have TPX for our PRI and some analog fax lines (yeah, I know). I will be happy to get rid of them forever.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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                            @wrx7m said in Choosing a SIP Provider - What Should I Look For?:

                            @scottalanmiller - I can also add TelePacific, now TPX Communications to the list of carriers I would never recommend. We had them for bonded T1s when I first got here, because there was no fiber for miles. We needed more bandwidth and the only option was to go fixed wireless. Ugh. That was a frustrating 3 years.

                            I was so happy to get our current ISP, Impulse with a 50/50 dedicated circuit. Now we have a 150/150 dedicated circuit. Finally and ISP that I would recommend.

                            We still have TPX for our PRI and some analog fax lines (yeah, I know). I will be happy to get rid of them forever.

                            Pretty much if someone offers a T1, they probably suck.

                            Not always, but generally.

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                            • wrx7mW
                              wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller Yeah, this was 2010 when I started and our building is on the edge of a business park flanked by agriculture

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                              • anthonyhA
                                anthonyh
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                                I wasn't involved in the vetting of SIP providers, but we use Vodex Communications (based out of SoCal) and have had a great 3 years so far. I can't speak to their pricing or anything as I'm not involved with that, but in terms of service and support they've been top notch.

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                                • jt1001001J
                                  jt1001001 @EddieJennings
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                                  @eddiejennings We are on Windstream SIP service. AVOID!!!!

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                                  • EddieJenningsE
                                    EddieJennings @jt1001001
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                                    @jt1001001 said in Choosing a SIP Provider - What Should I Look For?:

                                    @eddiejennings We are on Windstream SIP service. AVOID!!!!

                                    Ha! 😄 That message made my day!

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                                    • wrx7mW
                                      wrx7m @anthonyh
                                      last edited by

                                      @anthonyh said in Choosing a SIP Provider - What Should I Look For?:

                                      I wasn't involved in the vetting of SIP providers, but we use Vodex Communications (based out of SoCal) and have had a great 3 years so far. I can't speak to their pricing or anything as I'm not involved with that, but in terms of service and support they've been top notch.

                                      Thanks, I am also in SoCal so I would imagine that they would have decent connectivity here.

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                                      • wrx7mW
                                        wrx7m
                                        last edited by wrx7m

                                        I am checking out voip.ms and they have a number portability tester. I tested several and they seem to be OK. What would make the numbers not portable?

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @wrx7m
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                                          @wrx7m said in Choosing a SIP Provider - What Should I Look For?:

                                          I am checking out voip.ms and they have a number portability tester. I tested several and they seem to be OK. What would make the numbers not portable?

                                          asshole vendor

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                            @dashrender said in Choosing a SIP Provider - What Should I Look For?:

                                            @wrx7m said in Choosing a SIP Provider - What Should I Look For?:

                                            I am checking out voip.ms and they have a number portability tester. I tested several and they seem to be OK. What would make the numbers not portable?

                                            asshole vendor

                                            That pretty much sums it up. It is who currently owns the numbers.

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