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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      On copper, 10gbe requires cat 6A to go 100 m. On regular cat six you could maybe go 50 m if it types out well. That is not enough for almost any office.

      I agree - but then again, most users don't need 10 GbE - but they might take advantage of 2.5 or 5, over 1 GbE.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @Obsolesce
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        @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @DustinB3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        Windows should be able to clean up after itself

        It does, after a certain time it removes these files.

        However, it seems people do not leave enough room on their drive. So the update process fails or causes other issues.

        Exactly - I have visited many a home user in the past where they are constantly having a full disk. it's hard to say if today they are having as much of the problem, considering that before people were using digital cameras - connecting those to the computer, then downloading the pictures, etc. now days they use phones and sync to google and icloud, not so much to local.

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        • pchiodoP
          pchiodo @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 I think the bigger issue that they cannot resolve is that you can do a full install of windows in about 40 minutes, but the updates take 4-40 hours. How can this even be conceivable? They could wipe out the OS and reinstall in less time then the updates.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @pchiodo
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            @pchiodo said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @DustinB3403 I think the bigger issue that they cannot resolve is that you can do a full install of windows in about 40 minutes, but the updates take 4-40 hours. How can this even be conceivable? They could wipe out the OS and reinstall in less time then the updates.

            That was definitely the case on the 17xx updates, but both 18xx updates took under an hour.

            MS has changed the process. The reality is that it still takes 4-40 hours, but 90% of it can be done while the user is still using the computer. Then when the reboot it done, in my experience it's about 20 mins and they user is back in business.

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            • dbeatoD
              dbeato @pchiodo
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              @pchiodo said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @DustinB3403 I think the bigger issue that they cannot resolve is that you can do a full install of windows in about 40 minutes, but the updates take 4-40 hours. How can this even be conceivable? They could wipe out the OS and reinstall in less time then the updates.

              40 hours? no way

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @dbeato
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                @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @pchiodo said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @DustinB3403 I think the bigger issue that they cannot resolve is that you can do a full install of windows in about 40 minutes, but the updates take 4-40 hours. How can this even be conceivable? They could wipe out the OS and reinstall in less time then the updates.

                40 hours? no way

                I've had windows updates take 2 hours on older systems. But never have I been patient enough to let a system sit for 40 hours, ever on any hardware.

                Downloading updates on the other hand. . .

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @dbeato
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                  @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @pchiodo said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @DustinB3403 I think the bigger issue that they cannot resolve is that you can do a full install of windows in about 40 minutes, but the updates take 4-40 hours. How can this even be conceivable? They could wipe out the OS and reinstall in less time then the updates.

                  40 hours? no way

                  Seen it for sure.

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                  • dbeatoD
                    dbeato @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    @pchiodo said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    @DustinB3403 I think the bigger issue that they cannot resolve is that you can do a full install of windows in about 40 minutes, but the updates take 4-40 hours. How can this even be conceivable? They could wipe out the OS and reinstall in less time then the updates.

                    40 hours? no way

                    Seen it for sure.

                    Where? and with what Windows version?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @dbeato
                      last edited by

                      @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      @pchiodo said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      @DustinB3403 I think the bigger issue that they cannot resolve is that you can do a full install of windows in about 40 minutes, but the updates take 4-40 hours. How can this even be conceivable? They could wipe out the OS and reinstall in less time then the updates.

                      40 hours? no way

                      Seen it for sure.

                      Where? and with what Windows version?

                      windows 10

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                      • dbeatoD
                        dbeato @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @pchiodo said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @DustinB3403 I think the bigger issue that they cannot resolve is that you can do a full install of windows in about 40 minutes, but the updates take 4-40 hours. How can this even be conceivable? They could wipe out the OS and reinstall in less time then the updates.

                        40 hours? no way

                        Seen it for sure.

                        Where? and with what Windows version?

                        windows 10

                        Mm I guess we can move this discussion to another post. But in all seriousness it doesn't take that long to update Windows 10 unless you have a crippled hard drive and low resources computers. Even if you install Windows 10 1703 or 1670 now and then attempt to an upgrade it will bring you to 1809 directly either by the Media Creation Tool or Update Readiness tool. That doesn't take 40 hours, that at most takes 2 hours and plus 1 to 4 hours at most for updates.

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                        • pchiodoP
                          pchiodo @dbeato
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                          @dbeato I was being a bit sarcastic, although I have seen a windows 10 update "hang" for more than a day. That said, it has gotten better.

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                          • dbeatoD
                            dbeato @pchiodo
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                            @pchiodo said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @dbeato I was being a bit sarcastic, although I have seen a windows 10 update "hang" for more than a day. That said, it has gotten better.

                            Kinda hard to get the sarcastic Online mode 🙂

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                            • pchiodoP
                              pchiodo @dbeato
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                              @dbeato d9379728-e734-472f-8ff6-343ccdb2e942-image.png

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @dbeato
                                last edited by

                                @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @pchiodo said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @DustinB3403 I think the bigger issue that they cannot resolve is that you can do a full install of windows in about 40 minutes, but the updates take 4-40 hours. How can this even be conceivable? They could wipe out the OS and reinstall in less time then the updates.

                                40 hours? no way

                                Seen it for sure.

                                Where? and with what Windows version?

                                windows 10

                                Mm I guess we can move this discussion to another post. But in all seriousness it doesn't take that long to update Windows 10 unless you have a crippled hard drive and low resources computers. Even if you install Windows 10 1703 or 1670 now and then attempt to an upgrade it will bring you to 1809 directly either by the Media Creation Tool or Update Readiness tool. That doesn't take 40 hours, that at most takes 2 hours and plus 1 to 4 hours at most for updates.

                                It really has for me. We've had systems take over two days to process updates. Should it take so long? Of course not. Does it in the real world? Yup.

                                It has improved, and there are work arounds, but the stock update process can absolutely last that long.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @pchiodo
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                                  @pchiodo That's what @Dominica says, but she's actually serious and it is just a cover.

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                                  • dbeatoD
                                    dbeato
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                                    https://www.zdnet.com/article/aws-launches-fully-managed-document-database-service/

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                                    • tonyshowoffT
                                      tonyshowoff @dbeato
                                      last edited by

                                      @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      https://www.zdnet.com/article/aws-launches-fully-managed-document-database-service/

                                      Let's drink some MongoDB tears.

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                                      • jmooreJ
                                        jmoore @dbeato
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                                        @dbeato Ive seen it here with Win7 and Win 10

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @dbeato
                                          last edited by Obsolesce

                                          @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @dbeato said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @pchiodo said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @DustinB3403 I think the bigger issue that they cannot resolve is that you can do a full install of windows in about 40 minutes, but the updates take 4-40 hours. How can this even be conceivable? They could wipe out the OS and reinstall in less time then the updates.

                                          40 hours? no way

                                          Seen it for sure.

                                          Where? and with what Windows version?

                                          windows 10

                                          Mm I guess we can move this discussion to another post. But in all seriousness it doesn't take that long to update Windows 10 unless you have a crippled hard drive and low resources computers. Even if you install Windows 10 1703 or 1670 now and then attempt to an upgrade it will bring you to 1809 directly either by the Media Creation Tool or Update Readiness tool. That doesn't take 40 hours, that at most takes 2 hours and plus 1 to 4 hours at most for updates.

                                          Yeah we've not seen that anywhere here, and if anyone's hardware would do it, it'd be some of ours. Longest we've seen is an hour or so, but was definitely hardware related. We've updated hundreds of devices, not just a few, and haven't seen it.

                                          I've also sat through long Fedora upgrades... so...

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                                          • mlnewsM
                                            mlnews
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                                            Nokia 8.1 Plus is the company’s most modern-looking phone yet

                                            The latest leak shows Nokia can do modern design, hopefully at a good price point.

                                            Since this is just a CAD file, the leak doesn't have any information on the price or specs, and we're not even sure if "Nokia 8.1 Plus" is the final name. What we can see, though, is a 6.22-inch display with a hole-punch design, a USB-C port, a bottom-firing speaker, a top headphone jack, a dual camera setup on the back, and a rear fingerprint reader. As usual, Nokia is part of the "Android One" program, which just means the phone has stock Android and a reliable update schedule.

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