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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @marcinozga
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      @marcinozga said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      Sometimes you just have to. GE for example has a few system for suppliers that work only in IE and only with outdated Java versions.

      No, this means stop using those systems and suppliers. They are willfully putting you and your business at risks because "it'll cost to much to fix".

      This is like never changing the oil in your car and instead just replacing the motor when it blows up after 20,000 miles because the block is bone dry.

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      • coliverC
        coliver @DustinB3403
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        @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @coliver Are people still actively using IE? Even on servers if I required a web browser I would never use IE.

        Unfortunately yes... we still have some applications that require IE and won't work with a modern browser.

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          marcinozga @DustinB3403
          last edited by marcinozga

          @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @marcinozga said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          Sometimes you just have to. GE for example has a few system for suppliers that work only in IE and only with outdated Java versions.

          No, this means stop using those systems and suppliers. They are willfully putting you and your business at risks because "it'll cost to much to fix".

          This is like never changing the oil in your car and instead just replacing the motor when it blows up after 20,000 miles because the block is bone dry.

          Really? Show me a company that would be willing to drop their biggest customer, in fact, probably the biggest company in the world, because they had you use some obsolete technology.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by

            I said drop the vendor. If a vendor is making you use a system that knowingly puts your confidential data at risk, why would you use them?

            Either force them to update by telling them too, or to piss off. Or find a new vendor who will be happy to take your business with modern / secured technology.

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              marcinozga @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              I said drop the vendor. If a vendor is making you use a system that knowingly puts your confidential data at risk, why would you use them?

              Either force them to update by telling them too, or to piss off. Or find a new vendor who will be happy to take your business with modern / secured technology.

              You clearly misread what I originally wrote. GE is the customer, not a vendor. Their systems are for their suppliers, so they are the customer.

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              • PenguinWranglerP
                PenguinWrangler @DustinB3403
                last edited by PenguinWrangler

                @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @coliver Are people still actively using IE? Even on servers if I required a web browser I would never use IE.

                Some of our clients require that we use IE to access their billing system where we submit our invoices to them.

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                • mlnewsM
                  mlnews
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                  http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-17.10-Final-Beta

                  Ubuntu 17.10 is right around the corner. The new Gnome desktop is the big deal, of course.

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                  • mlnewsM
                    mlnews
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                    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=oVirt-4.2-Alpha

                    oVirt 4.2 features redesigned admin portal

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver
                      last edited by

                      https://www.businessinsider.com.au/microsoft-ceo-satya-nadella-ai-should-be-open-2017-9

                      A step in the right direction for Microsoft... Although let's not forget the whole Microsoft Store debacle that still haunts Windows 10.

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                      • black3dynamiteB
                        black3dynamite @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @coliver Are people still actively using IE? Even on servers if I required a web browser I would never use IE.

                        Websites like U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs still requires Internet Explorer 11.

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                        • RojoLocoR
                          RojoLoco @mlnews
                          last edited by

                          @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/amazons-new-fire-tv-does-4k-hdr-comes-in-a-dongle-form-factor/

                          For 70 bucks, I think this might be coming to my house soon.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
                            last edited by

                            @rojoloco said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/amazons-new-fire-tv-does-4k-hdr-comes-in-a-dongle-form-factor/

                            For 70 bucks, I think this might be coming to my house soon.

                            It's tempting, but I still like the idea of avoiding all streaming media that is uncontrolled. I hate the "just watch whatever is on" concept.

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                            • RojoLocoR
                              RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller I'll just be using it for Netflix/HBO/Kodi mostly. I've got a long list of stuff to watch.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @rojoloco said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/amazons-new-fire-tv-does-4k-hdr-comes-in-a-dongle-form-factor/

                                For 70 bucks, I think this might be coming to my house soon.

                                It's tempting, but I still like the idea of avoiding all streaming media that is uncontrolled. I hate the "just watch whatever is on" concept.

                                You've lost me - how does the Amazon Fire TV give you uncontrolled media?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @rojoloco said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/amazons-new-fire-tv-does-4k-hdr-comes-in-a-dongle-form-factor/

                                  For 70 bucks, I think this might be coming to my house soon.

                                  It's tempting, but I still like the idea of avoiding all streaming media that is uncontrolled. I hate the "just watch whatever is on" concept.

                                  You've lost me - how does the Amazon Fire TV give you uncontrolled media?

                                  From the over the air antenna.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @rojoloco said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/amazons-new-fire-tv-does-4k-hdr-comes-in-a-dongle-form-factor/

                                    For 70 bucks, I think this might be coming to my house soon.

                                    It's tempting, but I still like the idea of avoiding all streaming media that is uncontrolled. I hate the "just watch whatever is on" concept.

                                    You've lost me - how does the Amazon Fire TV give you uncontrolled media?

                                    From the over the air antenna.

                                    That goes to the TV, not the Amazon Fire. At least that was the way I read the listing.

                                    originally I thought - hey cool, they installed a tuner into the Amazon fire - uh, nope.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @rojoloco said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/amazons-new-fire-tv-does-4k-hdr-comes-in-a-dongle-form-factor/

                                      For 70 bucks, I think this might be coming to my house soon.

                                      It's tempting, but I still like the idea of avoiding all streaming media that is uncontrolled. I hate the "just watch whatever is on" concept.

                                      You've lost me - how does the Amazon Fire TV give you uncontrolled media?

                                      From the over the air antenna.

                                      So in this case, you just skip buying the OTA antenna.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @rojoloco said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/amazons-new-fire-tv-does-4k-hdr-comes-in-a-dongle-form-factor/

                                        For 70 bucks, I think this might be coming to my house soon.

                                        It's tempting, but I still like the idea of avoiding all streaming media that is uncontrolled. I hate the "just watch whatever is on" concept.

                                        You've lost me - how does the Amazon Fire TV give you uncontrolled media?

                                        From the over the air antenna.

                                        So in this case, you just skip buying the OTA antenna.

                                        I already have several Fire TVs without antenna.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @rojoloco said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/amazons-new-fire-tv-does-4k-hdr-comes-in-a-dongle-form-factor/

                                          For 70 bucks, I think this might be coming to my house soon.

                                          It's tempting, but I still like the idea of avoiding all streaming media that is uncontrolled. I hate the "just watch whatever is on" concept.

                                          You've lost me - how does the Amazon Fire TV give you uncontrolled media?

                                          From the over the air antenna.

                                          So in this case, you just skip buying the OTA antenna.

                                          I already have several Fire TVs without antenna.

                                          But are they 4K?

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            From what I can tell, the main "thing" here is the fact that it's a dongle, and not a larger box that sits on a shelf.

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