I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.
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@scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
LVM== Logical Volume Manager?
Yes, LVM is a thing like "RAID", not a specific one. All computers have an LVM. Windows has it, Linux has it, AIX has it, every NAS has it. The LVM in Linux is called LVM2.
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@scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@scottalanmiller I have a CentOS 7 VM ready to play with now. I also have Ubuntu 16.04 VM as well.
Ubuntu 16.04 is three versions old. Those old LTS versions have limited support and only exists for application compatibility for apps that don't keep current. Never use an old OS version unless you have a specific compatibility issue that you can't avoid and are willing to accept (in many cases, this is a reason to avoid products that might have been abandoned.)
17.04 is current. I rarely use Ubuntu, but when I do, it's always current.
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@scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
I've been out of the 'hands on' Linux game for so long that I don't know what distro has the tools that will help me out.
No tools needed or beneficial for a straight NFS file server.
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@scottalanmiller said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
I've been out of the 'hands on' Linux game for so long that I don't know what distro has the tools that will help me out.
No tools needed or beneficial for a straight NFS file server.
Lots of good info.
I'm going to go with CentOS 7 and pound on it.
Thanks. I really appreciate it.
EDIT: One more thing tangentially related -- Since I have XenServer running nicely, what's to stop me from firing up a VM for LDAP services, tying it to my new storage box and using my old storage box as a backup LDAP server?
I think it's nice practice. If I work it through to it's logical conclusion, I can marry up to AWS as well? At least for critical backups. -
@scottalanmiller honestly I would not go with btrfs regardless of facebook...
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@matteo-nunziati So, CentOS 7 , EXT4, LVM with compression turned on.
After all, I'm using consumer / smb desktop hardware. From what I've read, ZFS would require more resources than I have available if I wanted dedupe. My storage box will only have 8 GB RAM. -
@scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@matteo-nunziati So, CentOS 7 , EXT4, LVM with compression turned on.
After all, I'm using consumer / smb desktop hardware. From what I've read, ZFS would require more resources than I have available if I wanted dedupe. My storage box will only have 8 GB RAM.Generally go XFS but even ext4 is good. ZFS requires something like 1gb per raw tb of storage but mostrly for raid/compression. It raises up to 5gb per tb if you want dedup.
So 8gb=8tb of raw (pre raid) storage.
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@scotth compression?! What compression?!
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@scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@travisdh1 I have some reading to do.
md + LVM + XFS. What's md?
XFS and btrfs. What's btrfs?
I should be able to fire up a VM (CentOS?) and experiment with this before I move to a physical box?
Any favorite distros?
EDIT: To clarify, this is for my home lab. I won't do this at work until I can break it and fix it. I haven't had a Linux box under my fingers for years, - many years.
I don't count appliances & preconfigured, vendor supplied VMs and boxes. Those I have in spades.
ThanksJust because nobody else addressed this one point yet. md = multi disk, the Linux Kernel's built in software RAID. It's management tool is called mdadm, which is what most people, wrongly, refer to it as (I'm still trying to break myself of this habit.)
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@matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@scotth compression?! What compression?!
Sorry. I saw lz4 compression on the volumes in FreeNAS. Thought it was kinda everywhere.
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@scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@scotth compression?! What compression?!
Sorry. I saw lz4 compression on the volumes in FreeNAS. Thought it was kinda everywhere.
I'll pay attention.AFAIK transparent compression (at fs level) is available in ntfs, zfs, btrfs only
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@matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@scottalanmiller honestly I would not go with btrfs regardless of facebook...
Not aware of any issues with it. Not my first choice, but along the same reasons why I rarely use ZFS - just not the right tool for the average job. I don't have any BtrFS concerns, though.
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@scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@matteo-nunziati So, CentOS 7 , EXT4, LVM with compression turned on.
After all, I'm using consumer / smb desktop hardware. From what I've read, ZFS would require more resources than I have available if I wanted dedupe. My storage box will only have 8 GB RAM.IF you wanted dedupe, but you rarely do. So not really a concern. Just don't turn it on.
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@matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@matteo-nunziati So, CentOS 7 , EXT4, LVM with compression turned on.
After all, I'm using consumer / smb desktop hardware. From what I've read, ZFS would require more resources than I have available if I wanted dedupe. My storage box will only have 8 GB RAM.Generally go XFS but even ext4 is good. ZFS requires something like 1gb per raw tb of storage but mostrly for raid/compression. It raises up to 5gb per tb if you want dedup.
So 8gb=8tb of raw (pre raid) storage.
ZFS is nice byt you usually can go w/out its features in smbThe memory is for dedupe. It needs very little for compression and RAID. Those use CPU, but not RAM (much).
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@scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@scotth compression?! What compression?!
Sorry. I saw lz4 compression on the volumes in FreeNAS. Thought it was kinda everywhere.
I'll pay attention.That's a ZFS level feature. Anything with ZFS will offer that feature. So Linux can, if you use ZFS.
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@matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@scotth compression?! What compression?!
Sorry. I saw lz4 compression on the volumes in FreeNAS. Thought it was kinda everywhere.
I'll pay attention.AFAIK transparent compression (at fs level) is available in ntfs, zfs, btrfs only
And ReFS "coming soon".
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@scottalanmiller said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@matteo-nunziati So, CentOS 7 , EXT4, LVM with compression turned on.
After all, I'm using consumer / smb desktop hardware. From what I've read, ZFS would require more resources than I have available if I wanted dedupe. My storage box will only have 8 GB RAM.Generally go XFS but even ext4 is good. ZFS requires something like 1gb per raw tb of storage but mostrly for raid/compression. It raises up to 5gb per tb if you want dedup.
So 8gb=8tb of raw (pre raid) storage.
ZFS is nice byt you usually can go w/out its features in smbThe memory is for dedupe. It needs very little for compression and RAID. Those use CPU, but not RAM (much).
Have to dig a bit: I found these numbers months ago in some freebsd zfs how-to
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@scottalanmiller said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@matteo-nunziati So, CentOS 7 , EXT4, LVM with compression turned on.
After all, I'm using consumer / smb desktop hardware. From what I've read, ZFS would require more resources than I have available if I wanted dedupe. My storage box will only have 8 GB RAM.Generally go XFS but even ext4 is good. ZFS requires something like 1gb per raw tb of storage but mostrly for raid/compression. It raises up to 5gb per tb if you want dedup.
So 8gb=8tb of raw (pre raid) storage.
ZFS is nice byt you usually can go w/out its features in smbThe memory is for dedupe. It needs very little for compression and RAID. Those use CPU, but not RAM (much).
@scottalanmiller said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@matteo-nunziati So, CentOS 7 , EXT4, LVM with compression turned on.
After all, I'm using consumer / smb desktop hardware. From what I've read, ZFS would require more resources than I have available if I wanted dedupe. My storage box will only have 8 GB RAM.Generally go XFS but even ext4 is good. ZFS requires something like 1gb per raw tb of storage but mostrly for raid/compression. It raises up to 5gb per tb if you want dedup.
So 8gb=8tb of raw (pre raid) storage.
ZFS is nice byt you usually can go w/out its features in smbThe memory is for dedupe. It needs very little for compression and RAID. Those use CPU, but not RAM (much).
No you are right 1gb is for dedup
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@matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@scottalanmiller said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@matteo-nunziati So, CentOS 7 , EXT4, LVM with compression turned on.
After all, I'm using consumer / smb desktop hardware. From what I've read, ZFS would require more resources than I have available if I wanted dedupe. My storage box will only have 8 GB RAM.Generally go XFS but even ext4 is good. ZFS requires something like 1gb per raw tb of storage but mostrly for raid/compression. It raises up to 5gb per tb if you want dedup.
So 8gb=8tb of raw (pre raid) storage.
ZFS is nice byt you usually can go w/out its features in smbThe memory is for dedupe. It needs very little for compression and RAID. Those use CPU, but not RAM (much).
@scottalanmiller said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:
@matteo-nunziati So, CentOS 7 , EXT4, LVM with compression turned on.
After all, I'm using consumer / smb desktop hardware. From what I've read, ZFS would require more resources than I have available if I wanted dedupe. My storage box will only have 8 GB RAM.Generally go XFS but even ext4 is good. ZFS requires something like 1gb per raw tb of storage but mostrly for raid/compression. It raises up to 5gb per tb if you want dedup.
So 8gb=8tb of raw (pre raid) storage.
ZFS is nice byt you usually can go w/out its features in smbThe memory is for dedupe. It needs very little for compression and RAID. Those use CPU, but not RAM (much).
No you are right 1gb is for dedup
I do this a lot
