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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce
      last edited by

      I was taught ZZ too, years ago, so that's what I use as well. Or q! if I'm not saving.

      But I'm like @travisdh1 and prefer nano.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by

        I use nano more than Vi.

        I just don't like the blank interface for it. Now I understand at time vi is preferred do to word wrapping etc. And then I'll use Vi.

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        • coliverC
          coliver
          last edited by

          I prefer vi... I've been burned by not having nano in the past and forced myself to learn vi because of that.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @coliver
            last edited by

            @coliver said in Quitting Vi:

            I prefer vi... I've been burned by not having nano in the past and forced myself to learn vi because of that.

            Same here. I've seen Fortune 100 companies production brought down because no one knew vi and nothing else was available in a crash.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
              last edited by DustinB3403

              @scottalanmiller said in Quitting Vi:

              @coliver said in Quitting Vi:

              I prefer vi... I've been burned by not having nano in the past and forced myself to learn vi because of that.

              Same here. I've seen Fortune 100 companies production brought down because no one knew vi and nothing else was available in a crash.

              These scenarios are so out past the moon for most of us that they would rarely occur. Like buying 4 servers to protect from 2 of them dying.

              Now this doesn't mean don't learn Vi (I try and learn myself) I just don't like the interface.

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              • coliverC
                coliver @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @dustinb3403 said in Quitting Vi:

                @scottalanmiller said in Quitting Vi:

                @coliver said in Quitting Vi:

                I prefer vi... I've been burned by not having nano in the past and forced myself to learn vi because of that.

                Same here. I've seen Fortune 100 companies production brought down because no one knew vi and nothing else was available in a crash.

                These scenarios are so out past the moon for most of us that they would rarely occur. Like buying 4 servers to protect from 2 of them dying.

                That's true... although it happened to me when working in an SMB (tiny 100-200 person SMB) with some legacy systems.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @dustinb3403 said in Quitting Vi:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Quitting Vi:

                  @coliver said in Quitting Vi:

                  I prefer vi... I've been burned by not having nano in the past and forced myself to learn vi because of that.

                  Same here. I've seen Fortune 100 companies production brought down because no one knew vi and nothing else was available in a crash.

                  These scenarios are so out past the moon for most of us that they would rarely occur. Like buying 4 servers to protect from 2 of them dying.

                  Not as crazy as you might think. All it takes is certain storage devices failing.

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                  • NerdyDadN
                    NerdyDad
                    last edited by

                    For those like me who doesn't know vi very well, a reference sheet.

                    http://www.lagmonster.org/docs/vi.html

                    If you do a quick Google search, you will find a number of reference cards and sheets for vi from colleges and universities.

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22
                      last edited by

                      I definitely prefer nano, but knowing vi (at least to a base degree like i do) is pretty much necessary as you are likely to eventually run into a situation where you don't have access to nano. Common discussion around here though

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                      • PenguinWranglerP
                        PenguinWrangler
                        last edited by

                        My daughter's first laptop that she got here recently was Korora 25. I then pointed her to this site https://vim-adventures.com/ and she learned VIM as a game. Her and I are going through a Python class together.

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @PenguinWrangler
                          last edited by

                          @penguinwrangler said in Quitting Vi:

                          My daughter's first laptop that she got here recently was Korora 25. I then pointed her to this site https://vim-adventures.com/ and she learned VIM as a game. Her and I are going through a Python class together.

                          What a great idea

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                          • NerdyDadN
                            NerdyDad @PenguinWrangler
                            last edited by

                            @penguinwrangler said in Quitting Vi:

                            My daughter's first laptop that she got here recently was Korora 25. I then pointed her to this site https://vim-adventures.com/ and she learned VIM as a game. Her and I are going through a Python class together.

                            If you don't mind me asking, how old is your daughter? My 7-year-old got a NextBook with Windows 10 for christmas and I'm considering trying at least Fedora on it for her instead.

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce
                              last edited by

                              Vi is not hard. All you have to know at minimum is how to get in it, how to move the curser & change/add text, how to save, and how to exit:

                              vi
                              up/down/left/right
                              ZZ
                              q!

                              If you can remember that, you'll be just fine.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @Obsolesce
                                last edited by

                                @tim_g said in Quitting Vi:

                                Vi is not hard. All you have to know at minimum is how to get in it, how to move the curser & change/add text, how to save, and how to exit:

                                vi
                                up/down/left/right
                                ZZ
                                q!

                                If you can remember that, you'll be just fine.

                                ZZ is a new one for me I just use :wq.

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22 @coliver
                                  last edited by

                                  @coliver said in Quitting Vi:

                                  @tim_g said in Quitting Vi:

                                  Vi is not hard. All you have to know at minimum is how to get in it, how to move the curser & change/add text, how to save, and how to exit:

                                  vi
                                  up/down/left/right
                                  ZZ
                                  q!

                                  If you can remember that, you'll be just fine.

                                  ZZ is a new one for me I just use :wq.

                                  Same

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                                  • momurdaM
                                    momurda
                                    last edited by

                                    Dont forget about i. I always do.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @Obsolesce
                                      last edited by coliver

                                      @tim_g said in Quitting Vi:

                                      Vi is not hard. All you have to know at minimum is how to get in it, how to move the curser & change/add text, how to save, and how to exit:

                                      vi
                                      up/down/left/right
                                      ZZ
                                      q!

                                      If you can remember that, you'll be just fine.

                                      You should add / to your list.

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                                      • RamblingBipedR
                                        RamblingBiped @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        @dustinb3403 said in Quitting Vi:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Quitting Vi:

                                        @coliver said in Quitting Vi:

                                        I prefer vi... I've been burned by not having nano in the past and forced myself to learn vi because of that.

                                        Same here. I've seen Fortune 100 companies production brought down because no one knew vi and nothing else was available in a crash.

                                        These scenarios are so out past the moon for most of us that they would rarely occur. Like buying 4 servers to protect from 2 of them dying.

                                        Now this doesn't mean don't learn Vi (I try and learn myself) I just don't like the interface.

                                        We have over 1000 Linux servers and Vi is the only option on the greater majority (75%+). None of our QA, Stage, or Production systems come with anything else.

                                        I like and use Vim, and go with Vi if that's all I've got. Here's a great book for anyone looking to become a Vim power user: Practical Vim (https://pragprog.com/book/dnvim2/practical-vim-second-edition)

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                                        • RamblingBipedR
                                          RamblingBiped
                                          last edited by

                                          Also, installing Vim and typing 'vimtutor' at any terminal will launch an interactive beginner's tutorial on Vim.

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                                          • wirestyle22W
                                            wirestyle22
                                            last edited by

                                            i'm going to drown in linux-related books

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