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    • Emad RE
      Emad R
      last edited by Emad R

      Will be monitoring this thread like:

      halloween_1978_still.jpg

      Also does it really work in Windows environments like it does on Linux, it seems like SaltStack and its brothers (Chef, Ansible, I forgot one) are tailored for Linux, and I dont want the master/server to be on Windows, that will be redundant I mean passing commands to Windows agents, and is their template library with commands where we can see what we can do under Windows.

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        Alex Sage @Emad R
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        @msff-amman-Itofficer said in SaltStack Use Cases:
        is their template library with commands where we can see what we can do under Windows.

        Link?

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        • RomoR
          Romo @Emad R
          last edited by Romo

          @msff-amman-Itofficer said in SaltStack Use Cases:

          Will be monitoring this thread like:
          Also does it really work in Windows environments like it does on Linux, it seems like SaltStack and its brothers (Chef, Ansible, I forgot one) are tailored for Linux, and I dont want the master/server to be on Windows, that will be redundant I mean passing commands to Windows agents, and is their template library with commands where we can see what we can do under Windows.

          They do work for windows, the don't have all the modules for Windows yet but they have a pretty good selection.

          Ansible Windows Modules

          win_acl - Set file/directory permissions for a system user or group.
          win_acl_inheritance - Change ACL inheritance
          win_chocolatey - Installs packages using chocolatey
          win_command - Executes a command on a remote Windows node
          win_copy - Copies files to remote locations on windows hosts.
          win_disk_image - Manage ISO/VHD/VHDX mounts on Windows hosts
          win_dns_client - Configures DNS lookup on Windows hosts
          win_domain - Ensures the existence of a Windows domain.
          win_domain_controller - Manage domain controller/member server state for a Windows host
          win_domain_membership - Manage domain/workgroup membership for a Windows host
          win_dotnet_ngen - Runs ngen to recompile DLLs after .NET updates
          win_environment - Modifies environment variables on windows hosts.
          win_feature - Installs and uninstalls Windows Features on Windows Server
          win_file - Creates, touches or removes files or directories.
          win_file_version - Get DLL or EXE file build version
          win_find - return a list of files based on specific criteria
          win_firewall_rule - Windows firewall automation
          win_get_url - Fetches a file from a given URL
          win_group - Add and remove local groups
          win_iis_virtualdirectory - Configures a virtual directory in IIS.
          win_iis_webapplication - Configures IIS web applications.
          win_iis_webapppool - Configures an IIS Web Application Pool.
          win_iis_webbinding - Configures a IIS Web site.
          win_iis_website - Configures a IIS Web site.
          win_lineinfile - Ensure a particular line is in a file, or replace an existing line using a back-referenced regular expression.
          win_msg - Sends a message to logged in users on Windows hosts.
          win_msi - Installs and uninstalls Windows MSI files
          win_nssm - NSSM - the Non-Sucking Service Manager
          win_owner - Set owner
          win_package - Installs/Uninstalls an installable package, either from local file system or url
          win_path - Manage Windows path environment variables
          win_ping - A windows version of the classic ping module.
          win_psexec - Runs commands (remotely) as another (privileged) user
          win_reboot - Reboot a windows machine
          win_reg_stat - returns information about a Windows registry key or property of a key
          win_regedit - Add, change, or remove registry keys and values
          win_region - Set the region and format settings
          win_regmerge - Merges the contents of a registry file into the windows registry
          win_robocopy - Synchronizes the contents of two directories using Robocopy.
          win_say - Text to speech module for Windows to speak messages and optionally play sounds
          win_scheduled_task - Manage scheduled tasks
          win_service - Manages Windows services
          win_share - Manage Windows shares
          win_shell - Execute shell commands on target hosts.
          win_shortcut - Manage shortcuts on Windows
          win_stat - returns information about a Windows file
          win_tempfile - Creates temporary files and directories.
          win_template - Templates a file out to a remote server.
          win_timezone - Sets Windows machine timezone
          win_unzip - Unzips compressed files and archives on the Windows node
          win_updates - Download and install Windows updates
          win_uri - Interacts with webservices.
          win_user - Manages local Windows user accounts
          win_webpicmd - Installs packages using Web Platform Installer command-line
          

          Saltack Windows Modules

          salt.states.win_certutil module
          salt.states.win_dacl
          salt.states.win_dism module
          salt.states.win_dns_client
          salt.states.win_firewall
          salt.states.win_iis module
          salt.states.win_lgpo module
          salt.states.win_license module
          salt.states.win_network
          salt.states.win_path
          salt.states.win_pki module
          salt.states.win_powercfg
          salt.states.win_servermanager
          salt.states.win_smtp_server module
          salt.states.win_snmp module
          salt.states.win_system
          salt.states.win_update
          

          Speaking about ansible and saltstack the master/control node only runs on Linux.

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates
            last edited by stacksofplates

            So I can't answer for Salt since I don't use it, but I use Ansible for everything. For example, I have a separate DHCP and DNS server. Records are held in a YAML dictionary and when I need to add a machine, I add the DNS info and mac address and Ansible sets up the DHCP reservation on one machine and the DNS record in the other.

            I also use it for kickstart configs. Instead of Foreman or Cobbler, Ansible has a Jinja2 kickstart template. When I run the playbook, Ansible creates all of the kickstart configs for all of the machines in the same dictionary as above and then creates PXE boot files based on the MAC address for each machine.

            Ansible is pretty awesome with cloud services also. Dynamic inventories means you don't need to keep track of static inventories for your playbooks. Ansible can use any kind of script to get an inventory from AWS, DO, OpenStack, etc. As long as it returns JSON, your inventory is now the actual machines in your provider.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Emad R
              last edited by

              @msff-amman-Itofficer said in SaltStack Use Cases:

              Will be monitoring this thread like:

              halloween_1978_still.jpg

              Also does it really work in Windows environments like it does on Linux, it seems like SaltStack and its brothers (Chef, Ansible, I forgot one) are tailored for Linux, and I dont want the master/server to be on Windows, that will be redundant I mean passing commands to Windows agents, and is their template library with commands where we can see what we can do under Windows.

              Not tailored for any specific OS. Windows works fine.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @AdamF
                last edited by

                @fuznutz04 said in SaltStack Use Cases:

                So this could also be useful for copying files to many servers at once from the central master I assume. For example, all minions need to have copies of source files that are updated from a central point. This could be used to push updates to all minions at once. Correct?

                Yes. Or to tell them to all grab updates from somewhere.

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                • Emad RE
                  Emad R @Romo
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                  @Romo

                  Interesting thanks...

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                  • matteo nunziatiM
                    matteo nunziati
                    last edited by matteo nunziati

                    Generic answer:
                    basically Ansible, Salt, etc... are configuration managers. To understand when to use them, let say this:

                    you want to deploy a machine (VM/physical, even a desktop)

                    a) you do it. so ok, next time you have to do the same task you have to remember what you did - and if the platform will change (run a web server on a different OS/distribution) you have to deal with the differences time per time.
                    b) as above, but you write all the steps (especially the tricky ones) on a file, so next time you have just to follow instructions and everything should be in place. Still OS is a matter but you can follow the quirks in your paperwrites.
                    c) you go over and you "drop" the minutes in favour of a script (shell/powershell etc...) which - if well laid out, will automagically re-deploy the machine again and again and again with a lot of custom if/else logic...

                    or...

                    d) as above, but you do it with a CM script.

                    It is all about how much reproducibility, automation and platform independence(°) and standardization is a requisite for your job.
                    (°) you have to deal with platform at writing time, not at run time. Also idempotency is not always attained with windows PS things.

                    Personal example:
                    Recently, I've migrated my VMs from KVM to hyper-v, rather than do anything else, I've used the existent VMs as a target and I've tried to reach the same objective by using fresh installs on hyper-v and Ansible scripts for deployments. My playbooks (ansible code) are still rude but I push them on bitbucket with git and I will be sure that next time I'll need a VM (even for testing) I will be able to fire a script and get exactly the same env.

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                    • matteo nunziatiM
                      matteo nunziati
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                      also related: CM vs GPO comparison for Windows. Here the CM is DSC.

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                      • Emad RE
                        Emad R @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403

                        check this:
                        https://mangolassi.it/topic/13786/how-to-patch-wannacry-using-saltstack-ad-alternative

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                          Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller Why not just rsync directly to the master? You want versioning?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
                            last edited by

                            @aaronstuder said in SaltStack Use Cases:

                            @scottalanmiller Why not just rsync directly to the master? You want versioning?

                            Yes, and multiple users, and a central repository.

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