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    • R3dPand4R
      R3dPand4 @Dashrender
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      @dashrender That's very possible, I could also see people with very large pockets getting involved and providing aid through that process. There have been instances where investors see a business opportunity as well as have the ethical motivation to step in, but yeah that's certainly a concern.

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      • coliverC
        coliver
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        Even Google/Alphabet is trying to get in the ISP game. They are winning in some cases but even they are being tied up with lawsuits.

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        • RojoLocoR
          RojoLoco @R3dPand4
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          @r3dpand4 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

          @dashrender That's very possible, I could also see people with very large pockets getting involved and providing aid through that process. There have been instances where investors see a business opportunity as well as have the ethical motivation to step in, but yeah that's certainly a concern.

          You don't seriously think that investors have any ethical motivation beyond making money , do you????????

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          • coliverC
            coliver @RojoLoco
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            @rojoloco said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

            @r3dpand4 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

            @dashrender That's very possible, I could also see people with very large pockets getting involved and providing aid through that process. There have been instances where investors see a business opportunity as well as have the ethical motivation to step in, but yeah that's certainly a concern.

            You don't seriously think that investors have any ethical motivation beyond making money , do you????????

            Some do... but as a whole I doubt the majority do.

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            • R3dPand4R
              R3dPand4 @RojoLoco
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              @rojoloco Oh no I agree with you completely, I'm probably not as pessimistic as I ought to be. NN being done away with does terrify me, but I also have seen the online community bend large corporations and governments to their will at times so that's pretty much the only hope I'm holding onto.

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              • R3dPand4R
                R3dPand4 @coliver
                last edited by

                @coliver True, that very well could be the case.

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                • R3dPand4R
                  R3dPand4 @coliver
                  last edited by

                  @coliver @RojoLoco It's certainly second tier to the profitability for most I'd assume, but I don't see investors passing on an opportunity where 90+% of the country is horribly dissatisfied with their ISP and not thinking hey this is definitely something we should look into.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @R3dPand4
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                    @r3dpand4 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    @coliver @RojoLoco It's certainly second tier to the profitability for most I'd assume, but I don't see investors passing on an opportunity where 90+% of the country is horribly dissatisfied with their ISP and not thinking hey this is definitely something we should look into.

                    NN has nothing to do with no one starting an ISP with better service and policies.

                    Go do a little historical digging. The incumbents spend a fuckton of money on this every year.

                    There is a reason that Google Fiber has barely progressed. It is because the incumbents do not want competition and they have litigated it to stagnation. Google has given up, that is why they switched to project Loon.

                    See my comments about my hometown being fought by Charter.

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                    • R3dPand4R
                      R3dPand4 @JaredBusch
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                      @jaredbusch Okay will do! Again I wasn't trying to make ISPs out to be angels or anything, I was just thinking of some of the possible outcomes of this whole thing.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @JaredBusch
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                        @jaredbusch said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @r3dpand4 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @coliver @RojoLoco It's certainly second tier to the profitability for most I'd assume, but I don't see investors passing on an opportunity where 90+% of the country is horribly dissatisfied with their ISP and not thinking hey this is definitely something we should look into.

                        NN has nothing to do with no one starting an ISP with better service and policies.

                        Go do a little historical digging. The incumbents spend a fuckton of money on this every year.

                        There is a reason that Google Fiber has barely progressed. It is because the incumbents do not want competition and they have litigated it to stagnation. Google has given up, that is why they switched to project Loon.

                        See my comments about my hometown being fought by Charter.

                        Project Loon is going to be a big deal if they can get it off the ground. I know Elon Musk is also looking at doing LEO satellite internet within the decade, that is going to put a crush on incumbent ISPs if, again, it ever gets off the ground. Both of those have the advantage of not moving into incumbent ISP space so it would be very difficult to sue over them.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @RojoLoco
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                          @rojoloco said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @r3dpand4 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @dashrender That's very possible, I could also see people with very large pockets getting involved and providing aid through that process. There have been instances where investors see a business opportunity as well as have the ethical motivation to step in, but yeah that's certainly a concern.

                          You don't seriously think that investors have any ethical motivation beyond making money , do you????????

                          This is definitely the case for VCs, to only care about making money. It would be awesome to see warren buffet's money going toward projects like this for the people at large, and less for charity in general.

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                          • RojoLocoR
                            RojoLoco @Dashrender
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                            @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @rojoloco said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @r3dpand4 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @dashrender That's very possible, I could also see people with very large pockets getting involved and providing aid through that process. There have been instances where investors see a business opportunity as well as have the ethical motivation to step in, but yeah that's certainly a concern.

                            You don't seriously think that investors have any ethical motivation beyond making money , do you????????

                            This is definitely the case for VCs, to only care about making money. It would be awesome to see warren buffet's money going toward projects like this for the people at large, and less for charity in general.

                            Agreed. All he's doing is supporting huge salaries for people who run charities.

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                            • mlnewsM
                              mlnews
                              last edited by

                              https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/fcc-tries-to-help-cable-companies-avoid-state-consumer-protection-rules/

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @mlnews
                                last edited by

                                @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/fcc-tries-to-help-cable-companies-avoid-state-consumer-protection-rules/

                                man.. we just need to find someone willing to stand up SIP direct communications via DNS or something - get rid of the central carrier crap!

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/fcc-tries-to-help-cable-companies-avoid-state-consumer-protection-rules/

                                  man.. we just need to find someone willing to stand up SIP direct communications via DNS or something - get rid of the central carrier crap!

                                  LOL, mine is up. That was easy.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/fcc-tries-to-help-cable-companies-avoid-state-consumer-protection-rules/

                                    man.. we just need to find someone willing to stand up SIP direct communications via DNS or something - get rid of the central carrier crap!

                                    LOL, mine is up. That was easy.

                                    HAHA, you know what I mean.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/fcc-tries-to-help-cable-companies-avoid-state-consumer-protection-rules/

                                      man.. we just need to find someone willing to stand up SIP direct communications via DNS or something - get rid of the central carrier crap!

                                      LOL, mine is up. That was easy.

                                      HAHA, you know what I mean.

                                      The real issue is that we need EVERYONE to do it.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/fcc-tries-to-help-cable-companies-avoid-state-consumer-protection-rules/

                                        man.. we just need to find someone willing to stand up SIP direct communications via DNS or something - get rid of the central carrier crap!

                                        LOL, mine is up. That was easy.

                                        HAHA, you know what I mean.

                                        The real issue is that we need EVERYONE to do it.

                                        exactly.

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                                        • mlnewsM
                                          mlnews
                                          last edited by mlnews

                                          He said it, but did anyone listen?

                                          https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/al-franken-wants-net-neutrality-rules-for-google-facebook-and-amazon/

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                                          • mlnewsM
                                            mlnews
                                            last edited by

                                            https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/lawmakers-demand-investigation-into-fcc-chairman-ajit-pai/

                                            Looks like Ajit Pai might be on the payroll of Sinclair Broadcast Group. Two lawmakers are asking for an investigation.

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