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    • dafyreD
      dafyre @scottalanmiller
      last edited by dafyre

      @scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

      @Frank-Karlitschek said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

      @dafyre Sure. The Spreed is improving fast. Will be a lot better in the next release. We also want to promote the email and chat integration more. And we plan to integrate all this communication channels more into each other in the future.

      I'm using the email (in testing, not as our main client) in conjunction with Zimbra as the email server and so far it has been really good. The interface is really nice. Have not touched the cat function, we use Rocket.Chat for that and would be hard pressed to justify leaving.

      Perhaps an integration with RocketChat is warranted as well!

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
        last edited by

        @jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

        @JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

        @jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

        @JaredBusch does MS Office not support WebDAV? If it does, this API exists already 😉

        I assume that Office is using WebDAV for this. So write something that can make NextCloud show up in the dialog like this.

        0_1487776868805_upload-9f3fefe5-3a3f-46dc-9d34-ed9cbd9741a9

        I honestly don't know what it takes to show up there - perhaps you can already do it, maybe it needs some work. Would be cool to see, agreed.

        As you can see in the screenshot, when I clicked on the "One Drive - Personal" on the top right it opened a standard windows File dialog box but the address bar shows
        0_1487777917417_upload-a067559c-1ca8-425e-959b-f2f3b887d2b3

        Clicking on it reveals the full URL in standard form: https://d.docs.live.net/c44d01487196d328

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        • StrongBadS
          StrongBad @IRJ
          last edited by

          @IRJ said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

          @Frank-Karlitschek said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

          @IRJ Yes. There are always big and cool new features coming. 🙂 Actually the Nextcloud community is more active then ever. But it's not clear yet which features make it into the next major version. So we have to wait until the first beta is done. 🙂

          No teasers? 😉

          Yeah, we want to know juicy details !

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @jospoortvliet
            last edited by

            @jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

            @JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

            @jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

            @JaredBusch does MS Office not support WebDAV? If it does, this API exists already 😉

            I assume that Office is using WebDAV for this. So write something that can make NextCloud show up in the dialog like this.

            0_1487776868805_upload-9f3fefe5-3a3f-46dc-9d34-ed9cbd9741a9

            I honestly don't know what it takes to show up there - perhaps you can already do it, maybe it needs some work. Would be cool to see, agreed.

            Microsoft has some information here (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35474) about how to get that to happen. (Granted, it is for Office 2013)

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @dafyre
              last edited by

              @dafyre said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

              @jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

              @JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

              @jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

              @JaredBusch does MS Office not support WebDAV? If it does, this API exists already 😉

              I assume that Office is using WebDAV for this. So write something that can make NextCloud show up in the dialog like this.

              0_1487776868805_upload-9f3fefe5-3a3f-46dc-9d34-ed9cbd9741a9

              I honestly don't know what it takes to show up there - perhaps you can already do it, maybe it needs some work. Would be cool to see, agreed.

              Microsoft has some information here (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35474) about how to get that to happen. (Granted, it is for Office 2013)

              That requires a local sync.

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @JaredBusch
                last edited by

                @JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                @dafyre said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                @jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                @JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                @jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                @JaredBusch does MS Office not support WebDAV? If it does, this API exists already 😉

                I assume that Office is using WebDAV for this. So write something that can make NextCloud show up in the dialog like this.

                0_1487776868805_upload-9f3fefe5-3a3f-46dc-9d34-ed9cbd9741a9

                I honestly don't know what it takes to show up there - perhaps you can already do it, maybe it needs some work. Would be cool to see, agreed.

                Microsoft has some information here (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35474) about how to get that to happen. (Granted, it is for Office 2013)

                That requires a local sync.

                Potentially. If they do what MS does and point straight to the Web URL... maybe not... Just food for thought.

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                • jospoortvlietJ
                  jospoortvliet Vendor @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                  @jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                  @JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                  @jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                  @JaredBusch does MS Office not support WebDAV? If it does, this API exists already 😉

                  I assume that Office is using WebDAV for this. So write something that can make NextCloud show up in the dialog like this.

                  0_1487776868805_upload-9f3fefe5-3a3f-46dc-9d34-ed9cbd9741a9

                  I honestly don't know what it takes to show up there - perhaps you can already do it, maybe it needs some work. Would be cool to see, agreed.

                  As you can see in the screenshot, when I clicked on the "One Drive - Personal" on the top right it opened a standard windows File dialog box but the address bar shows
                  0_1487777917417_upload-a067559c-1ca8-425e-959b-f2f3b887d2b3

                  Clicking on it reveals the full URL in standard form: https://d.docs.live.net/c44d01487196d328

                  so can't you just enter webdav://mycloud.com/webdav/files/shareddocs/awesome/ there? (just making up a webdav URL here)...

                  That is what I do in my linux applications 😉

                  An alternative is to mount the webdav as a drive and just open files in the file open dialog, click on the virtual drive and open & save from there.

                  I am sorry, I have no windows experience 😉

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @jospoortvliet
                    last edited by

                    @jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                    @JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                    @jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                    @JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                    @jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                    @JaredBusch does MS Office not support WebDAV? If it does, this API exists already 😉

                    I assume that Office is using WebDAV for this. So write something that can make NextCloud show up in the dialog like this.

                    0_1487776868805_upload-9f3fefe5-3a3f-46dc-9d34-ed9cbd9741a9

                    I honestly don't know what it takes to show up there - perhaps you can already do it, maybe it needs some work. Would be cool to see, agreed.

                    As you can see in the screenshot, when I clicked on the "One Drive - Personal" on the top right it opened a standard windows File dialog box but the address bar shows
                    0_1487777917417_upload-a067559c-1ca8-425e-959b-f2f3b887d2b3

                    Clicking on it reveals the full URL in standard form: https://d.docs.live.net/c44d01487196d328

                    so can't you just enter webdav://mycloud.com/webdav/files/shareddocs/awesome/ there? (just making up a webdav URL here)...

                    That is what I do in my linux applications 😉

                    An alternative is to mount the webdav as a drive and just open files in the file open dialog, click on the virtual drive and open & save from there.

                    I am sorry, I have no windows experience 😉

                    Can I? Of course I can. But I also can think for myself and any number of other things that users cannot do.

                    Users cannot be trained to do that.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @dafyre
                      last edited by

                      @dafyre said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                      @JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                      @dafyre said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                      @jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                      @JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                      @jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                      @JaredBusch does MS Office not support WebDAV? If it does, this API exists already 😉

                      I assume that Office is using WebDAV for this. So write something that can make NextCloud show up in the dialog like this.

                      0_1487776868805_upload-9f3fefe5-3a3f-46dc-9d34-ed9cbd9741a9

                      I honestly don't know what it takes to show up there - perhaps you can already do it, maybe it needs some work. Would be cool to see, agreed.

                      Microsoft has some information here (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35474) about how to get that to happen. (Granted, it is for Office 2013)

                      That requires a local sync.

                      Potentially. If they do what MS does and point straight to the Web URL... maybe not... Just food for thought.

                      No, it is right in the document. I have looked at this before.

                      0_1487778341463_upload-99a4a79c-a947-459c-ad27-f121895cecfd

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @jospoortvliet
                        last edited by

                        @jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                        @JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                        @jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                        @JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                        @jospoortvliet said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                        @JaredBusch does MS Office not support WebDAV? If it does, this API exists already 😉

                        I assume that Office is using WebDAV for this. So write something that can make NextCloud show up in the dialog like this.

                        0_1487776868805_upload-9f3fefe5-3a3f-46dc-9d34-ed9cbd9741a9

                        I honestly don't know what it takes to show up there - perhaps you can already do it, maybe it needs some work. Would be cool to see, agreed.

                        As you can see in the screenshot, when I clicked on the "One Drive - Personal" on the top right it opened a standard windows File dialog box but the address bar shows
                        0_1487777917417_upload-a067559c-1ca8-425e-959b-f2f3b887d2b3

                        Clicking on it reveals the full URL in standard form: https://d.docs.live.net/c44d01487196d328

                        so can't you just enter webdav://mycloud.com/webdav/files/shareddocs/awesome/ there? (just making up a webdav URL here)...

                        That is what I do in my linux applications 😉

                        An alternative is to mount the webdav as a drive and just open files in the file open dialog, click on the virtual drive and open & save from there.

                        I am sorry, I have no windows experience 😉

                        We're trying to avoid actually mounting anything... As @JaredBusch said, the users likely will break it first.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Frank Karlitschek
                          last edited by

                          @Frank-Karlitschek said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                          @FATeknollogee On Nextcloud.com you can download fully configured VMs. Should be easy to run. 🙂

                          We have some pretty easy install instructions around ML, too. And I'm working on same DevOps installation methods right now. Hoping to have a Salt installer for the single node installation soon. Perfect for installing on Scale or Vultr, for example.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            Normal users can't be asked to type something in. Heck it's hard enough sometimes getting them to browse through and find the s: drive.

                            To make this really user-centric, it needs to have a button inside the save dialog that allows them to browse to where they want to open/save a file, like JB's example.

                            My whole thinking is a way to move from the current workflows of today and network shares to a future workflow of accessing things directly through the apps.

                            This is how most mobile apps work.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              If WebDAV works, just in theory, what would be nice is an integration so that we can push it out to MS Office somehow.

                              Or likewise, to LibreOffice 😉

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                                If WebDAV works, just in theory, what would be nice is an integration so that we can push it out to MS Office somehow.

                                Or likewise, to LibreOffice 😉

                                I was assuming anything would be easy with LibreOffice.

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                                • jt1001001J
                                  jt1001001
                                  last edited by

                                  Any plans for more of a Nexcloud "appliance" , say a NAS with Nexcloud integrated. Love the Raspberry Pi WD project but one still has to provide the Pi

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                                  • Frank KarlitschekF
                                    Frank Karlitschek @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                                    Normal users can't be asked to type something in. Heck it's hard enough sometimes getting them to browse through and find the s: drive.

                                    To make this really user-centric, it needs to have a button inside the save dialog that allows them to browse to where they want to open/save a file, like JB's example.

                                    My whole thinking is a way to move from the current workflows of today and network shares to a future workflow of accessing things directly through the apps.

                                    This is how most mobile apps work.

                                    I'm not a Windows expert. But isn't there a way to create a network share entry in the save dialog for all users. A WebDAV entry is similar to a normal network share entry.

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                                    • Frank KarlitschekF
                                      Frank Karlitschek @jt1001001
                                      last edited by

                                      @jt1001001 said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                                      Any plans for more of a Nexcloud "appliance" , say a NAS with Nexcloud integrated. Love the Raspberry Pi WD project but one still has to provide the Pi

                                      Yes. We hope that more and more hardware manufacturers ship boxes with Nextcloud installed. We ourselves are not in the hardware business. But if someone knows someone who could/should ship Nextcloud preinstalled then we should talk and recommend this. 🙂

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                                        If WebDAV works, just in theory, what would be nice is an integration so that we can push it out to MS Office somehow.

                                        Or likewise, to LibreOffice 😉

                                        I was assuming anything would be easy with LibreOffice.

                                        Probably 🙂 I know that it has WebDAV in a dropdown. I bet there is a text file that holds those details or something.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @jt1001001
                                          last edited by

                                          @jt1001001 said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                                          Any plans for more of a Nexcloud "appliance" , say a NAS with Nexcloud integrated. Love the Raspberry Pi WD project but one still has to provide the Pi

                                          Synology, ReadyNAS... those would be great to see.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @jt1001001
                                            last edited by

                                            @jt1001001 said in Nextcloud AMA!!:

                                            Any plans for more of a Nexcloud "appliance" , say a NAS with Nexcloud integrated. Love the Raspberry Pi WD project but one still has to provide the Pi

                                            @NetServer has it built in now with the 7.3 release.

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