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    • Alket_tuxA
      Alket_tux @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller yes i get that what i am asking is:
      i have hyper v installed on my 4 processor server, on top of it i install a windows server 2012 r2 standart, i assign to it only one processor..
      in this case i need only one licence ?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Alket_tux
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        @Alket_tux said in windows server 2012 r2 licensing:

        @scottalanmiller yes i get that what i am asking is:
        i have hyper v installed on my 4 processor server, on top of it i install a windows server 2012 r2 standart, i assign to it only one processor..
        in this case i need only one licence ?

        No....

        Four processors, one VM = 2 Standard Licenses

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        • Alket_tuxA
          Alket_tux @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller so you are saying that it does not depend on the fact that the VM is virtualized,

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Alket_tux
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            @Alket_tux said in windows server 2012 r2 licensing:

            @scottalanmiller so you are saying that it does not depend on the fact that the VM is virtualized,

            Correct, there is only... how many VMs, how many processors. That's it. The amount of RAM, assigned vCPUs and such have nothing to do with Windows licensing. Virtualization is the only enterprise deployment method so all licensing is designed assuming that already, it's not a weird exception to normal licensing, it's the majority case.

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            • brianlittlejohnB
              brianlittlejohn
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              The windows licenses apply to the physical machine, everytime you add another fully licensed copy of Server 2012r2 (2 Server 2012 Standard licenses in the case of 4 processors) you can legally run another 2 windows VMs.

              If you only had two processors instead of 4, for every standard license you would get 2 vms, so if you bought two standard licenses you could run 4 vms legally.

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              • Alket_tuxA
                Alket_tux @brianlittlejohn
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                @brianlittlejohn thanks, i have another question, if i install windows 2012 r2 standart on my bare metal server with 2 processors, and i enable hyper v as a role:

                1- I need one licence as there are 2 processors ?
                2- do i get to have 2 virtual machines (WS 2012 r2 Standart) for free?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Alket_tux
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                  @Alket_tux said in windows server 2012 r2 licensing:

                  @brianlittlejohn thanks, i have another question, if i install windows 2012 r2 standart on my bare metal server with 2 processors, and i enable hyper v as a role:

                  Under no conditions should you ever do this!!

                  All this does is make your system have more overhead, increase risk and make it harder to deal with in the future. There are no benefits but major problems. It's an anti-best practice and should be absolutely avoided.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Alket_tux
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                    @Alket_tux said in windows server 2012 r2 licensing:

                    @brianlittlejohn thanks, i have another question, if i install windows 2012 r2 standart on my bare metal server with 2 processors, and i enable hyper v as a role:

                    1- I need one licence as there are 2 processors ?

                    Correct, but don't do it.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Alket_tux
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                      @Alket_tux said in windows server 2012 r2 licensing:

                      @brianlittlejohn thanks, i have another question, if i install windows 2012 r2 standart on my bare metal server with 2 processors, and i enable hyper v as a role:

                      2- do i get to have 2 virtual machines (WS 2012 r2 Standart) for free?

                      Yes, no matter how you install Hyper-V, the licensing stays the same. But this should never happen. Here is what happens under the hood...

                      • Hyper-V installs to the bare metal and removes Windows
                      • The Windows Server that you installed becomes a VM that "looks" physical
                      • You have the same licensing as always, so you may use up to two Windows VMs
                      • You may "not use" the VM that you just created (literally, you can't touch it, no installing anything on it that isn't needed for Hyper-V - it's useless to you, now you have a "dead" VM that you basically have to manage but can't use taking up resources.
                      • You may use two Windows VMs. Either the one that you just created and one more, or you can leave the one and make two more. No matter what you do, you can only use two VMs.

                      So as you can see, you would never install this way as it just makes a mess for no reason.

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                      • Alket_tuxA
                        Alket_tux @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller so which is your suggestion?
                        suppose i am planning of creating a small virtual environment.. what would you recommend me?
                        how should i install hyper-v?

                        thanks

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Alket_tux
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                          @Alket_tux said in windows server 2012 r2 licensing:

                          how should i install hyper-v?

                          Simply download Hyper-V itself directly, no Windows Server, and install it alone. Then build your VMs on top of it.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            This is the download link for Hyper-V 2016:

                            https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-hyper-v-server-2016

                            It is totally free. The "evaluation" is unlimited. There is no other form of Hyper-V.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in windows server 2012 r2 licensing:

                              This is the download link for Hyper-V 2016:

                              https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-hyper-v-server-2016

                              It is totally free. The "evaluation" is unlimited. There is no other form of Hyper-V.

                              This needs to be stated again. MS makes this very confusing. It looks like this is just a trial, but it's not. There is no time limit or other limitations to the use of this software.

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                              • Reid CooperR
                                Reid Cooper
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                                Need some tags on this thread.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Updated

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                                  • StrongBadS
                                    StrongBad @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said in Windows Server 2012 R2 Licensing:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in windows server 2012 r2 licensing:

                                    This is the download link for Hyper-V 2016:

                                    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-hyper-v-server-2016

                                    It is totally free. The "evaluation" is unlimited. There is no other form of Hyper-V.

                                    This needs to be stated again. MS makes this very confusing. It looks like this is just a trial, but it's not. There is no time limit or other limitations to the use of this software.

                                    I agree, it's terrible that they lump it in with other actual trials.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      And remember, running Hyper-V you still need to license your Windows VMs on top. But if you have additional VMs that are Linux or FreeBSD for example, those are free. So you can still do that without costly another penny.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        And, of course, you can use XenServer, KVM or VMware ESXi instead of Hyper-V and there is no change to licensing.

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                                          Texkonc
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                                          A server with just HyperV core is a limited install, not the full windows features.
                                          If you install server like a standard OS install and just add the HyperV role, that is different than the free HyperV Core and will need a license for that.

                                          That is my understanding.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Texkonc
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                                            @Texkonc said in Windows Server 2012 R2 Licensing:

                                            If you install server like a standard OS install and just add the HyperV role, that is different than the free HyperV Core and will need a license for that.

                                            That is my understanding.

                                            It is different, that is correct. The Hyper-V portion is identical, but you are encumbered with a Windows Server VM that is tied to the Hyper-V installation in a bad way and it requires a license.

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