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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates
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      I'm just a keyboard monkey.

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        http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aMrA6B6_700b.jpg

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @alex.olynyk
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          @alex.olynyk said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

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          Often at the same time!

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          • DustinB3403D
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            Well by definition your are a professional if you are paid to do a certain task. IT professional is no different than professional wrestler.

            Your paid to do X. Which means your a professional

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            • art_of_shredA
              art_of_shred Banned @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

              Well by definition your are a professional if you are paid to do a certain task. IT professional is no different than professional wrestler.

              Your paid to do X. Which means your a professional

              No difference between a pro wrestler and an IT pro? Hmmm... 😛

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @art_of_shred
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                @art_of_shred said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

                @DustinB3403 said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

                Well by definition your are a professional if you are paid to do a certain task. IT professional is no different than professional wrestler.

                Your paid to do X. Which means your a professional

                No difference between a pro wrestler and an IT pro? Hmmm... 😛

                I performed my signature move the "Tombstone" on that 2003 Exchange server. It's completely out of commission.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @art_of_shred
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                  @art_of_shred well besides what you "do"

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                  • ChrisLC
                    ChrisL @wirestyle22
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                    @wirestyle22 said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

                    @art_of_shred said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

                    @DustinB3403 said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

                    Well by definition your are a professional if you are paid to do a certain task. IT professional is no different than professional wrestler.

                    Your paid to do X. Which means your a professional

                    No difference between a pro wrestler and an IT pro? Hmmm... 😛

                    I performed my signature move the "Tombstone" on that 2003 Exchange server. It's completely out of commission.

                    I gave an open cabinet door the Sweet Chin Music the last time I visited the DC.

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller @ChrisL
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                      @ChrisL said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

                      @wirestyle22 said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

                      @art_of_shred said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

                      @DustinB3403 said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

                      Well by definition your are a professional if you are paid to do a certain task. IT professional is no different than professional wrestler.

                      Your paid to do X. Which means your a professional

                      No difference between a pro wrestler and an IT pro? Hmmm... 😛

                      I performed my signature move the "Tombstone" on that 2003 Exchange server. It's completely out of commission.

                      I gave an open cabinet door the Sweet Chin Music the last time I visited the DC.

                      Good grief what am I doing wrong. I never physically abuse the equipment, it typically abuses me!!

                      Matt directs laser eyeballs at the rack hardware that has sliced him up on multiple occasions

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                      • art_of_shredA
                        art_of_shred Banned @MattSpeller
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                        @MattSpeller said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

                        @ChrisL said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

                        @wirestyle22 said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

                        @art_of_shred said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

                        @DustinB3403 said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

                        Well by definition your are a professional if you are paid to do a certain task. IT professional is no different than professional wrestler.

                        Your paid to do X. Which means your a professional

                        No difference between a pro wrestler and an IT pro? Hmmm... 😛

                        I performed my signature move the "Tombstone" on that 2003 Exchange server. It's completely out of commission.

                        I gave an open cabinet door the Sweet Chin Music the last time I visited the DC.

                        Good grief what am I doing wrong. I never physically abuse the equipment, it typically abuses me!!

                        Matt directs laser eyeballs at the rack hardware that has sliced him up on multiple occasions

                        Just as long as you're not trash-talking to it before it kicks your a$$. That would be embarrassing.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          I'm jumping in pretty late, but I think that a big thing that we have to consider is if "pro" applies to IT. IT is nothing like doctors, lawyers and not much like traditional engineers. I hate the term pro as it brings connotations of fields with which IT really does not have anything in common. I like the term practitioner better. IT is a business field and business isn't a field of professionals. Business is about "who can do it the best." Professionals are traditionally all about certifications and regulations - following rules and being locked "inside the box."

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

                            Well by definition your are a professional if you are paid to do a certain task. IT professional is no different than professional wrestler.

                            Your paid to do X. Which means your a professional

                            That doesn't match US employment rules as to professional versus non-professional. There is the loose "paid" definition but there are much more strict definitions that make only a handful of jobs listed as professional - and none that IT would happily identify with.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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                              @RojoLoco said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

                              I thought the definition of "IT Pro" was: "anyone and everyone who manages to figure out how to make a spiceworks account". Or is that just SW's definition?

                              Anyone and everyone for whom an account is made. You adding way too much constriction.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller Professional Defined.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

                                  @scottalanmiller Professional Defined.

                                  Yup, and the major definition is part 1, not part 2. That was my point. And if you use part 2, then you lump IT in with ALL work, like garbage men or janitors. And in one case you can call yourself "a professional" and in the other you cannot. Just because you flip burgers at McD's does not mean that you can say that you are a "professional."

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    US Legal Definition of Professional:

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller the definition is based on by all descriptions of it, as something done to earn income. In a general summary.

                                      The only thing that allows variance is the 1b which describes a professional as a learned profession. Like a personal accountant, or lawyer.

                                      But in any case it boils down to, what you're paid to do for work.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        Because IT does not yet have a specially organized body of knowledge, IT isn't eligible for professional status. In many ways, it's higher than a professional status because it requires a degree of knowledge that cannot yet be codified.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

                                          @scottalanmiller the definition is based on by all descriptions of it, as something done to earn income. In a general summary.

                                          The only thing that allows variance is the 1b which describes a professional as a learned profession. Like a personal accountant, or lawyer.

                                          But in any case it boils down to, what you're paid to do for work.

                                          That's neither what the primarily (part 1) definition says, not how the word is most commonly used and not how it is used legally in the US. Professional can be used in the silly way of "I'm a professional burger flipper" but a burger flipper cannot say "I'm a professional." That would be outright lying.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in What constitutes an IT Pro?:

                                            Because IT does not yet have a specially organized body of knowledge, IT isn't eligible for professional status. In many ways, it's higher than a professional status because it requires a degree of knowledge that cannot yet be codified.

                                            Wrong. IT is codified as being intellectual and varied in character.

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