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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
      last edited by

      Is Sangoma packaging their own distro now?

      WTF is SNG7? I can only assume their own RHEL 7
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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Oh man. SMH

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          This explains why CentOS 7 install instructions don't work.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch
            last edited by

            potentially. have not installed it anywhere yet.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              Any guess or word on an expected release date?

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Sangoma Linux?:

                Any guess or word on an expected release date?

                Have not paid close attention to release dates.

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                  Alex Sage
                  last edited by Alex Sage

                  FreePBX 14 requires more modern software than is historically provided with the Long-Term-Stable RHEL based releases. FreePBX Distro 7 provides all the stability of a RHEL7 based Distribution, with the flexibility of hand-picked and maintained modern packages.

                  http://wiki.freepbx.org/display/PPS/FreePBX+Distro+SNG7

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @Alex Sage
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                    @aaronstuder said in Sangoma Linux?:

                    FreePBX 14 requires more modern software than is historically provided with the Long-Term-Stable RHEL based releases. FreePBX Distro 7 provides all the stability of a RHEL7 based Distribution, with the flexibility of hand-picked and maintained modern packages.

                    Yes, if they want newer packages, there are repositories they can add without abandoning the core CentOS7 system

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      And if they were truly serious about being up to date, they would have had something like this out 2 years ago.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                        @aaronstuder said in Sangoma Linux?:

                        FreePBX 14 requires more modern software than is historically provided with the Long-Term-Stable RHEL based releases. FreePBX Distro 7 provides all the stability of a RHEL7 based Distribution, with the flexibility of hand-picked and maintained modern packages.

                        http://wiki.freepbx.org/display/PPS/FreePBX+Distro+SNG7

                        Fedora would have been better for that.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said in Sangoma Linux?:

                          @aaronstuder said in Sangoma Linux?:

                          FreePBX 14 requires more modern software than is historically provided with the Long-Term-Stable RHEL based releases. FreePBX Distro 7 provides all the stability of a RHEL7 based Distribution, with the flexibility of hand-picked and maintained modern packages.

                          Yes, if they want newer packages, there are repositories they can add without abandoning the core CentOS7 system

                          Yeah. They are misunderstanding how RHEL works.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by coliver

                            @scottalanmiller said in Sangoma Linux?:

                            @aaronstuder said in Sangoma Linux?:

                            FreePBX 14 requires more modern software than is historically provided with the Long-Term-Stable RHEL based releases. FreePBX Distro 7 provides all the stability of a RHEL7 based Distribution, with the flexibility of hand-picked and maintained modern packages.

                            http://wiki.freepbx.org/display/PPS/FreePBX+Distro+SNG7

                            Fedora would have been better for that.

                            This is probably the case of: "it's too old to work with some of the Fedora packages but we needed new packages to work with one of our new features."

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @coliver
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                              @coliver said in Sangoma Linux?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Sangoma Linux?:

                              @aaronstuder said in Sangoma Linux?:

                              FreePBX 14 requires more modern software than is historically provided with the Long-Term-Stable RHEL based releases. FreePBX Distro 7 provides all the stability of a RHEL7 based Distribution, with the flexibility of hand-picked and maintained modern packages.

                              http://wiki.freepbx.org/display/PPS/FreePBX+Distro+SNG7

                              Fedora would have been better for that.

                              This is probably the case of: "it's too old to work with some of the Fedora packages but we needed new packages to work with one of our new features."

                              Fedora 25 is pretty new. And this works with CentOS too. They are just confused about how to package it.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Sangoma Linux?:

                                @coliver said in Sangoma Linux?:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Sangoma Linux?:

                                @aaronstuder said in Sangoma Linux?:

                                FreePBX 14 requires more modern software than is historically provided with the Long-Term-Stable RHEL based releases. FreePBX Distro 7 provides all the stability of a RHEL7 based Distribution, with the flexibility of hand-picked and maintained modern packages.

                                http://wiki.freepbx.org/display/PPS/FreePBX+Distro+SNG7

                                Fedora would have been better for that.

                                This is probably the case of: "it's too old to work with some of the Fedora packages but we needed new packages to work with one of our new features."

                                Fedora 25 is pretty new. And this works with CentOS too. They are just confused about how to package it.

                                PHP 7 is my first guess.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch said in Sangoma Linux?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Sangoma Linux?:

                                  @coliver said in Sangoma Linux?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Sangoma Linux?:

                                  @aaronstuder said in Sangoma Linux?:

                                  FreePBX 14 requires more modern software than is historically provided with the Long-Term-Stable RHEL based releases. FreePBX Distro 7 provides all the stability of a RHEL7 based Distribution, with the flexibility of hand-picked and maintained modern packages.

                                  http://wiki.freepbx.org/display/PPS/FreePBX+Distro+SNG7

                                  Fedora would have been better for that.

                                  This is probably the case of: "it's too old to work with some of the Fedora packages but we needed new packages to work with one of our new features."

                                  Fedora 25 is pretty new. And this works with CentOS too. They are just confused about how to package it.

                                  PHP 7 is my first guess.

                                  Yeah. And lots of people have added that to CentOS already.

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                                  • RomoR
                                    Romo
                                    last edited by Romo

                                    Their post on the subject: https://www.freepbx.org/freepbx-distro-7-beta-release/

                                    FreePBX Distro 7 Beta Release
                                    We are pleased to announce the beta release of the next FreePBX Distro. This is a huge leap forward in our distro releases. We would like to encourage early adopters to play with it and test it to ensure we have a solid platform to build FreePBX upon in the future. The new FreePBX distro is built on top of the Sangoma 7 distro, which is derived from CentOS 7.

                                    Some significant highlights of the new distro include:

                                    • No more FreePBX Distro Updater scripts. It’s just ‘yum update’. Always. You can also ‘yum downgrade’, too. (This, of course, doesn’t change FreePBX’s module versions, as usual. This is just Distro, and replaces the previous complexity of having to run multiple sequential upgrade scripts.) A forthcoming module will make this even simpler, removing the dependence on Sysadmin to do operating system upgrades.

                                    • Complete UEFI support for installation and operation.

                                    • Serial and USB installs are now much easier! In fact, it’s much faster to install from USB than from ISO! So much so that – depending on your feedback – installing from USB may become the recommended method of installation, with ISOs as the secondary installation method.

                                    • A better development environment. If you want to develop FreePBX, you can just run ‘yum install freepbx-devel’ to prepare most of the development environment.

                                    • Behind the scenes, all package updates are automated. This makes it a lot easier for us to rapidly and reliably push out fixes without needing to run multiple different steps to replicate to all the CDNs.

                                    • PHP 5.6.24 and FreePBX 14

                                    This is being shipped with FreePBX 14, as one of the features of 14 is complete support of modern PHP versions. FreePBX 14 is in early alpha. Several new features are unreleased and under development. At this stage in development, updates may come multiple times per day and things may break without notice. FreePBX 14 is not under the “Edge release system” during the alpha stage, so releases are not staggered. We welcome OS level bug reports, but FreePBX 14 issues should wait until FreePBX 14 reaches beta. (If you want to become involved in the FreePBX 14 development process, you are welcome to join us on IRC in the #freepbx-dev IRC channel!)

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @Romo
                                      last edited by

                                      @Romo said in Sangoma Linux?:

                                      • PHP 5.6.24 and FreePBX 14

                                      This is being shipped with FreePBX 14, as one of the features of 14 is complete support of modern PHP versions.

                                      WTF? These two things do not go together...

                                      PHP5.6 and modern PHP......

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @Romo
                                        last edited by

                                        @Romo said in Sangoma Linux?:

                                        • Serial and USB installs are now much easier! In fact, it’s much faster to install from USB than from ISO! So much so that – depending on your feedback – installing from USB may become the recommended method of installation, with ISOs as the secondary installation method.

                                        Uh what?

                                        Do they mean ISO on cd/DVD? lol do people still do that?

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said in Sangoma Linux?:

                                          @Romo said in Sangoma Linux?:

                                          • Serial and USB installs are now much easier! In fact, it’s much faster to install from USB than from ISO! So much so that – depending on your feedback – installing from USB may become the recommended method of installation, with ISOs as the secondary installation method.

                                          Uh what?

                                          Do they mean ISO on cd/DVD? lol do people still do that?

                                          That is pretty much my though. like WTF? The USB links for ht enormal downloads are simply .img files. Still have to write the image to the USB..

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                                            tm1000
                                            last edited by tm1000

                                            Hi guys,

                                            I work for Sangoma so I wanted to try to clear some things up here...

                                            Some comments here. We have to (By law) call this Sangoma 7. If you redistribute CentOS (commercially... which we do) you can not use their trademarks. Therefore we have to call it something else. See here for more information: https://www.centos.org/legal/trademarks/ and http://nerdvittles.com/?p=8888 and http://community.redhat.com/centos-faq/#_centos_trademark

                                            Specifically

                                            A Linux distribution can only be called CentOS if it is built on code in git.centos.org, is signed with the appropriate keys, and released by the CentOS Project. If you were to rebuild CentOS source code on your own, you could not call the result CentOS.

                                            We've actually had to repackage our own distro for a while now. Since at least CentOS 6.5 (Not sure of the exact timing). You'll notice it's called shmzOS

                                            We will update the CentOS 7 guides. Sorry about that we've been slacking.

                                            PHP 5.6 is still supported by PHP so yes. It's modern. We can't (at this time) jump to PHP 7 because it does not support Zend which we use for our commercial modules BUT that said it should work perfectly fine on PHP 7.

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