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    • brianlittlejohnB
      brianlittlejohn
      last edited by

      I didnt have any trouble getting my AD tied to O365. I use the DIR Sync for accounts and passwords, no ADFS, no Single Sign on.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill
        last edited by

        What is in it for the partner, then?

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        • dafyreD
          dafyre @NetworkNerd
          last edited by

          @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

          @dafyre said in Office365 Considerations:

          @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

          @dafyre said in Office365 Considerations:

          @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

          How do you like the built-in spam protection with O365? Does it do a good job to prevent spoofing and malicious links?

          It does an excellent job here. The only spam I get is junk I signed up for, ha ha.

          Do you use eDiscovery functionalities of O365 at all? If so, how do you like it?

          I know we do use it, but I don't have access to it, so I can't help you there.

          What about effort it took to get your environment to O365? Were there any big tweaks to AD needed? I had a reseller tell me they normally have to do 8 or more hours of work to AD to get things "working."

          This environment was already set up. We just use the DirSync tool at my last employer.

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          • art_of_shredA
            art_of_shred Banned @NetworkNerd
            last edited by

            @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

            It looks like you get Skype for Business with the E3 plan for meetings / video chats / screen sharing. Do I have that right?

            Yes, but last I knew regular old Skype was way better than SfB. We had nothing but trouble with it, but it was pretty early on. Things may have gotten better since we abandoned SfB.

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            • art_of_shredA
              art_of_shred Banned @BRRABill
              last edited by

              @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

              What is in it for the partner, then?

              MS perks. Sadly, not as many as there were at the onset.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @NetworkNerd
                last edited by

                @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                It looks like you get Skype for Business with the E3 plan for meetings / video chats / screen sharing. Do I have that right?

                Yes, sadly it comes with that crap.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @NetworkNerd
                  last edited by

                  @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                  @dafyre said in Office365 Considerations:

                  @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                  @dafyre said in Office365 Considerations:

                  @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                  How do you like the built-in spam protection with O365? Does it do a good job to prevent spoofing and malicious links?

                  It does an excellent job here. The only spam I get is junk I signed up for, ha ha.

                  Do you use eDiscovery functionalities of O365 at all? If so, how do you like it?

                  I know we do use it, but I don't have access to it, so I can't help you there.

                  What about effort it took to get your environment to O365? Were there any big tweaks to AD needed? I had a reseller tell me they normally have to do 8 or more hours of work to AD to get things "working."

                  AD does not get touched. You just run a sync tool to sync your AD to Azure AD.

                  Don't even talk to resellers, there is no value in it. Nothing that they tell you is about O365, it's about themselves. There is no "process" to get AD working, you just install the sync and you are done.

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                  • NetworkNerdN
                    NetworkNerd @art_of_shred
                    last edited by

                    @art_of_shred said in Office365 Considerations:

                    @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                    It looks like you get Skype for Business with the E3 plan for meetings / video chats / screen sharing. Do I have that right?

                    Yes, but last I knew regular old Skype was way better than SfB. We had nothing but trouble with it, but it was pretty early on. Things may have gotten better since we abandoned SfB.

                    Do you guys use the MS Teams chat-based workspace?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                      last edited by

                      @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                      What is in it for the partner, then?

                      Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @NetworkNerd
                        last edited by

                        @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                        @art_of_shred said in Office365 Considerations:

                        @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                        It looks like you get Skype for Business with the E3 plan for meetings / video chats / screen sharing. Do I have that right?

                        Yes, but last I knew regular old Skype was way better than SfB. We had nothing but trouble with it, but it was pretty early on. Things may have gotten better since we abandoned SfB.

                        Do you guys use the MS Teams chat-based workspace?

                        It doesn't exist for us yet. We tend to get these products months after MS is advertising them as being on the market.

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                        • NetworkNerdN
                          NetworkNerd @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                          @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                          @dafyre said in Office365 Considerations:

                          @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                          @dafyre said in Office365 Considerations:

                          @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                          How do you like the built-in spam protection with O365? Does it do a good job to prevent spoofing and malicious links?

                          It does an excellent job here. The only spam I get is junk I signed up for, ha ha.

                          Do you use eDiscovery functionalities of O365 at all? If so, how do you like it?

                          I know we do use it, but I don't have access to it, so I can't help you there.

                          What about effort it took to get your environment to O365? Were there any big tweaks to AD needed? I had a reseller tell me they normally have to do 8 or more hours of work to AD to get things "working."

                          AD does not get touched. You just run a sync tool to sync your AD to Azure AD.

                          Don't even talk to resellers, there is no value in it. Nothing that they tell you is about O365, it's about themselves. There is no "process" to get AD working, you just install the sync and you are done.

                          Wow. I'm glad I asked.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                            @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                            What is in it for the partner, then?

                            Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.

                            I guess the bigger question is ... if support is needed, does it go through the partner as billable hours? Or does it still go through MS. That part has always alluded me.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                              last edited by

                              @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                              @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                              What is in it for the partner, then?

                              Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.

                              I guess the bigger question is ... if support is needed, does it go through the partner as billable hours? Or does it still go through MS. That part has always alluded me.

                              It goes to MS. Why would it go to the partner when you buy the service from MS? That would be really weird.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                                @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                                @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                                What is in it for the partner, then?

                                Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.

                                I guess the bigger question is ... if support is needed, does it go through the partner as billable hours? Or does it still go through MS. That part has always alluded me.

                                It goes to MS. Why would it go to the partner when you buy the service from MS? That would be really weird.

                                OK, then why is the partner involved?

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                                • brianlittlejohnB
                                  brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                                  @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                                  @dafyre said in Office365 Considerations:

                                  @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                                  @dafyre said in Office365 Considerations:

                                  @NetworkNerd said in Office365 Considerations:

                                  How do you like the built-in spam protection with O365? Does it do a good job to prevent spoofing and malicious links?

                                  It does an excellent job here. The only spam I get is junk I signed up for, ha ha.

                                  Do you use eDiscovery functionalities of O365 at all? If so, how do you like it?

                                  I know we do use it, but I don't have access to it, so I can't help you there.

                                  What about effort it took to get your environment to O365? Were there any big tweaks to AD needed? I had a reseller tell me they normally have to do 8 or more hours of work to AD to get things "working."

                                  AD does not get touched. You just run a sync tool to sync your AD to Azure AD.

                                  The only time AD gets touched is if you have to add a UPN Alias to match your external domain.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                                    @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                                    @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                                    What is in it for the partner, then?

                                    Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.

                                    I guess the bigger question is ... if support is needed, does it go through the partner as billable hours? Or does it still go through MS. That part has always alluded me.

                                    It goes to MS. Why would it go to the partner when you buy the service from MS? That would be really weird.

                                    OK, then why is the partner involved?

                                    Partner gets you upgraded service.
                                    Microsoft gets their name out there more.
                                    Customer learns of the partner.

                                    Everyone benefits.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      No different than how a Dell Partner works, for example.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by BRRABill

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                                        @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                                        @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                                        @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                                        What is in it for the partner, then?

                                        Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.

                                        I guess the bigger question is ... if support is needed, does it go through the partner as billable hours? Or does it still go through MS. That part has always alluded me.

                                        It goes to MS. Why would it go to the partner when you buy the service from MS? That would be really weird.

                                        OK, then why is the partner involved?

                                        Partner gets you upgraded service.
                                        Microsoft gets their name out there more.
                                        Customer learns of the partner.

                                        Everyone benefits.

                                        So ... you pay ... Microsoft? Even if you go through a partner?

                                        And doing that gets you upgraded service. From Microsoft.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                                          @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                                          @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Office365 Considerations:

                                          @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                                          What is in it for the partner, then?

                                          Getting a customer, nothing else. It's not a money making scheme, it's just a way to get your name in front of customers.

                                          I guess the bigger question is ... if support is needed, does it go through the partner as billable hours? Or does it still go through MS. That part has always alluded me.

                                          It goes to MS. Why would it go to the partner when you buy the service from MS? That would be really weird.

                                          OK, then why is the partner involved?

                                          Partner gets you upgraded service.
                                          Microsoft gets their name out there more.
                                          Customer learns of the partner.

                                          Everyone benefits.

                                          So ... you pay ... Micorsoft? Even if you go through a partner?

                                          Of course, this is a partner, not a reseller. Partner = always, Reseller = never (with O365.) If you paid the partner, they'd be a reseller.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                            last edited by

                                            @BRRABill said in Office365 Considerations:

                                            And doing that gets you upgraded service. From Microsoft.

                                            Yes. MS needs to encourage everyone to be with a partner. That's how they do it.

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