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    Water Closet
    wtf i cant even that is not how that works
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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Ah ha, so every once in a while you get someone who uses Vmware in the SMB and claims it is a good deal. This one came right out and basically just admitted to hiding the alternatives from his customers (lying to them about cost savings) to trick them. That's how Vmware happens in the SMB (and in SW.)

      And in SMB setups, who needs hypervisor support all of the time? This stuff just works.

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce @dbeato
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        @dbeato Yes, but this is what I see...

        0_1512325025193_1df66cf4-32ac-494b-837e-49fca9463a6b-image.png

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

          (lying to them about cost savings) to trick them. That's how Vmware happens in the SMB (and in SW.)

          yeah pretty much exactly.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
            last edited by

            @tim_g said in I can't even:

            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

            (lying to them about cost savings) to trick them. That's how Vmware happens in the SMB (and in SW.)

            yeah pretty much exactly.

            I cannot believe how often on SW people come out and seem to actually brag about how they screw over their clients. He actually presents his strategy here for taking suckers, making something that is overly expensive look feasible, and hide the truth from them. And he thinks that posting that unethical strategy publicly is actually good?

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce
              last edited by

              Though, I did get a good tingly feeling when I seen that my VPS host is using RedHat... it makes me believe that they are getting good support for their back-end setup.

              I've never worked for a VPS host before, so my feeling may be wrong. But the idea seems nice anyways.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                last edited by

                @tim_g said in I can't even:

                Though, I did get a good tingly feeling when I seen that my VPS host is using RedHat... it makes me believe that they are getting good support for their back-end setup.

                I've never worked for a VPS host before, so my feeling may be wrong. But the idea seems nice anyways.

                Nothing wrong with support, if it is needed or makes sense. And VMware is great for that. But in the example case, he doesn't get Vmware support, he's selling the no support version to the customers which just screws them.

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                • dbeatoD
                  dbeato @Obsolesce
                  last edited by

                  @tim_g said in I can't even:

                  @dbeato Yes, but this is what I see...

                  0_1512325025193_1df66cf4-32ac-494b-837e-49fca9463a6b-image.png

                  Your Filtering or Ublock is doing something there. Open Incognito and check.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    I can only imagine he's either technically incompetent and can't figure out how to deploy and support anything and somehow is able to get far enough with Vmware to get it deployed and walk away before anything bad happens; or more likely he's a VAR and lying about being in IT.

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                      But in the example case, he doesn't get Vmware support, he's selling the no support version to the customers which just screws them.

                      That's insane. I wonder who his customers are? It would be nice to see what they think of it.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                        last edited by

                        @tim_g said in I can't even:

                        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                        But in the example case, he doesn't get Vmware support, he's selling the no support version to the customers which just screws them.

                        That's insane. I wonder who his customers are? It would be nice to see what they think of it.

                        Yeah, I wonder how many of them would be happy if they read the thread and saw that there were free, supported options that they hadn't been told about and how he gave them a false comparison to make his overcharing seem rational.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                          This guy REALLY doesn't know how to ask a question!

                          Now he ONLY cares about mimicking hardware, not software, architecture, design, etc. in his lab. Basically, he just wants to buy servers without any idea why.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            Like every crazy thread, ask what the real goal is and get ignored. The entire idea of knowing what you are trying to accomplish is just so foreign!

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                              Like every crazy thread, ask what the real goal is and get ignored. The entire idea of knowing what you are trying to accomplish is just so foreign!

                              After three pages that show that no one can figure out what his needs are, he comes back rude stating that we should have just given him a simple answer (one that didn't even match what he asked for!)

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                              • dbeatoD
                                dbeato @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                Like every crazy thread, ask what the real goal is and get ignored. The entire idea of knowing what you are trying to accomplish is just so foreign!

                                After three pages that show that no one can figure out what his needs are, he comes back rude stating that we should have just given him a simple answer (one that didn't even match what he asked for!)

                                I posted another reply...

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  That Robert guy that I reported as being a malicious troll two weeks ago is at it again making up obvious lies to mislead people on SW. He claims things so crazy, it's hard to understand how he thinks that he comes across as plausible.

                                  Now he claims that backup copies of VMs require MS licensing as if they were running! How dumb does he think people on SW are?

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                    That Robert guy that I reported as being a malicious troll two weeks ago is at it again making up obvious lies to mislead people on SW. He claims things so crazy, it's hard to understand how he thinks that he comes across as plausible.

                                    Now he claims that backup copies of VMs require MS licensing as if they were running! How dumb does he think people on SW are?

                                    Forgot I had him ignored. I seen that doesn' tdo much... it just hides his posts but you can expand them anyways...

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                      last edited by

                                      @tim_g said in I can't even:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                      That Robert guy that I reported as being a malicious troll two weeks ago is at it again making up obvious lies to mislead people on SW. He claims things so crazy, it's hard to understand how he thinks that he comes across as plausible.

                                      Now he claims that backup copies of VMs require MS licensing as if they were running! How dumb does he think people on SW are?

                                      Forgot I had him ignored. I seen that doesn' tdo much... it just hides his posts but you can expand them anyways...

                                      I have him muted, but I see when other people start pointing out when he's making crap up. It's amazing how often I still see him trying to trick people, given that I only see it indirectly.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                        @tim_g said in I can't even:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                        That Robert guy that I reported as being a malicious troll two weeks ago is at it again making up obvious lies to mislead people on SW. He claims things so crazy, it's hard to understand how he thinks that he comes across as plausible.

                                        Now he claims that backup copies of VMs require MS licensing as if they were running! How dumb does he think people on SW are?

                                        Forgot I had him ignored. I seen that doesn' tdo much... it just hides his posts but you can expand them anyways...

                                        I have him muted, but I see when other people start pointing out when he's making crap up. It's amazing how often I still see him trying to trick people, given that I only see it indirectly.

                                        The amount of misinformation in that topic is just staggering.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                          @tim_g said in I can't even:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                          That Robert guy that I reported as being a malicious troll two weeks ago is at it again making up obvious lies to mislead people on SW. He claims things so crazy, it's hard to understand how he thinks that he comes across as plausible.

                                          Now he claims that backup copies of VMs require MS licensing as if they were running! How dumb does he think people on SW are?

                                          Forgot I had him ignored. I seen that doesn' tdo much... it just hides his posts but you can expand them anyways...

                                          I have him muted, but I see when other people start pointing out when he's making crap up. It's amazing how often I still see him trying to trick people, given that I only see it indirectly.

                                          The amount of misinformation in that topic is just staggering.

                                          Yeah. It's like the goal of most of those people.

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                            @tim_g said in I can't even:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                            That Robert guy that I reported as being a malicious troll two weeks ago is at it again making up obvious lies to mislead people on SW. He claims things so crazy, it's hard to understand how he thinks that he comes across as plausible.

                                            Now he claims that backup copies of VMs require MS licensing as if they were running! How dumb does he think people on SW are?

                                            Forgot I had him ignored. I seen that doesn' tdo much... it just hides his posts but you can expand them anyways...

                                            I have him muted, but I see when other people start pointing out when he's making crap up. It's amazing how often I still see him trying to trick people, given that I only see it indirectly.

                                            The amount of misinformation in that topic is just staggering.

                                            Yeah. It's like the goal of most of those people.

                                            I think the problem is because Microsoft uses terms differently than the industry.

                                            For example, Microsoft uses "cold backup" to mean hyper-v VM replica. In which case, you must have SA or purchase an additional license.

                                            So in that way, Robert is correct and we were wrong...

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