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    • DustinB3403
      DustinB3403 last edited by

      Failing to learn basic functions, after repeatedly showing the employee how to do a specific function.

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      • thwr
        thwr last edited by

        • Lying (I'm open for virtually anything, but flat-out lying is not ok)
        • Stealing
        • Keep doing the same mistakes over and over (after someone noticed that and explained the problem)
        • Someone who keeps refusing to learn
        • Pushing work to others -> laziness
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          tiagom @bbigford last edited by

          @BBigford said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

          I would fire someone for...

          ...recommending Lenovo.

          Seen similar comments to this before, whats the deal with lenovo?

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          • DustinB3403
            DustinB3403 @tiagom last edited by

            @tiagom said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

            @BBigford said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

            I would fire someone for...

            ...recommending Lenovo.

            Seen similar comments to this before, whats the deal with lenovo?

            Superfish is just one example

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            • alex.olynyk
              alex.olynyk last edited by

              http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/02/lenovo_superfish_scandal_why_it_s_one_of_the_worst_consumer_computing_screw.html

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              • thwr
                thwr @tiagom last edited by

                @tiagom said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                @BBigford said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                I would fire someone for...

                ...recommending Lenovo.

                Seen similar comments to this before, whats the deal with lenovo?

                Some people don't like them, and IMHO there really was a large quality drop when IBM sold notebooks, servers and desktops to them. But on the other hand, IBM equipment used to be very good stuff. Still have a few 3550-M3 running (Xeon 55xx), rock solid. Not even fan failures or a broken power supply. So it isn't that worse (yet), but that's just my opinion.

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                • DustinB3403
                  DustinB3403 last edited by

                  I would fire someone for causing dumbasaphobia.

                  Semi-NSFS

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                  • thwr
                    thwr @DustinB3403 last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                    @tiagom said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                    @BBigford said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                    I would fire someone for...

                    ...recommending Lenovo.

                    Seen similar comments to this before, whats the deal with lenovo?

                    Superfish is just one example

                    There is so much bloat-, spy, crap- and whatever-ware installed on most notebooks from most vendors... When I get a unit, it gets a fresh image anyway. Or do you use an OS installed by someone you don't know on a machine that may hold confidential data?

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                    • wirestyle22
                      wirestyle22 @tiagom last edited by

                      @tiagom They package seemingly any software with their devices. So much bloatware and it has historically had security vulnerabilities.

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                      • thwr
                        thwr @wirestyle22 last edited by

                        @wirestyle22 said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                        @tiagom They package seemingly any software with their devices. So much bloatware and it has historically had security vulnerabilities.

                        What are your reasons for choosing a server or notebook vendor? The installed bloatware or "valuable addons" like all the WLAN connection management crap? You are choosing a well-made device, the hardware, not the software. The preinstalled image is nothing more than a demo IMHO, and you shouldn't really use that for production.

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                        • DustinB3403
                          DustinB3403 @thwr last edited by DustinB3403

                          @thwr said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                          @wirestyle22 said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                          @tiagom They package seemingly any software with their devices. So much bloatware and it has historically had security vulnerabilities.

                          What are your reasons for choosing a server or notebook vendor? The installed bloatware or "valuable addons" like all the WLAN connection management crap?

                          Most of those "valuable addons" can be downloaded from the web anyways. Why anyone would bother with 'oh I really need that new locky variant...

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                          • Dashrender
                            Dashrender @bbigford last edited by

                            @BBigford said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                            I would fire someone for...

                            ...recommending Lenovo.

                            Sadly I'm willing to bet that tons of IT pros don't know about the Lenovo Superfish issue.

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                            • zuphzuph
                              zuphzuph Banned @Dashrender last edited by

                              @Dashrender Oh I recall it quite well... and agreed.

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                              • Dashrender
                                Dashrender @thwr last edited by

                                @thwr said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                                @tiagom said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                                @BBigford said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                                I would fire someone for...

                                ...recommending Lenovo.

                                Seen similar comments to this before, whats the deal with lenovo?

                                Some people don't like them, and IMHO there really was a large quality drop when IBM sold notebooks, servers and desktops to them. But on the other hand, IBM equipment used to be very good stuff. Still have a few 3550-M3 running (Xeon 55xx), rock solid. Not even fan failures or a broken power supply. So it isn't that worse (yet), but that's just my opinion.

                                I'd say that most Lenovo gear is physically pretty good! I have two Yoga laptops from them. The first was released a year before Superfish was discovered, and the second a few months before. Luckily the second didn't have the issues when I wiped and reloaded it, where the first one I had to replace the wifi card myself before wireless would work correctly (crappy Superfish drivers!)

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                                • travisdh1
                                  travisdh1 @alex.olynyk last edited by

                                  @alex.olynyk said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                                  http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/02/lenovo_superfish_scandal_why_it_s_one_of_the_worst_consumer_computing_screw.html

                                  That wasn't just consumer lines tho. I remember posting something over on SW about them changing a bunch of product categories to avoid the backlash of having bad things appear on them. A week later, they did the superfish announcement. Didn't even try to hide their lies!

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                                    tiagom last edited by

                                    I am aware of the Lenovo Superfish issue and we don't use lenovo here. But when i get new equipment first thing i do is format and reinstall to get rid of all the crapware.

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                                    • travisdh1
                                      travisdh1 @tiagom last edited by

                                      @tiagom said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                                      I am aware of the Lenovo Superfish issue and we don't use lenovo here. But when i get new equipment first thing i do is format and reinstall to get rid of all the crapware.

                                      Superfish was BIOS level tho. Good luck getting rid of that.

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                                      • Dashrender
                                        Dashrender @thwr last edited by

                                        @thwr said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                                        @tiagom They package seemingly any software with their devices. So much bloatware and it has historically had security vulnerabilities.

                                        What are your reasons for choosing a server or notebook vendor? The installed bloatware or "valuable addons" like all the WLAN connection management crap? You are choosing a well-made device, the hardware, not the software. The preinstalled image is nothing more than a demo IMHO, and you shouldn't really use that for production.

                                        Sure, maybe I could give that to you, but in the case of Lenovo, they actually put in hardware keys in some laptops that prevented you from using the wifi vendor's generic driver. You had to use Lenovo's on crappy Superfish driver, so there was no way to get away from it.

                                        And if Lenovo cares so little for its consumer customers, why do you think they care more about their business customers?

                                        Sadly people don't care about these things, like their privacy, and don't hold their feet to the fire, and corporations have deals already in place they don't/won't walk away from... so the problem will likely never be solved.

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                                        • Dashrender
                                          Dashrender @travisdh1 last edited by

                                          @travisdh1 said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                                          @tiagom said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                                          I am aware of the Lenovo Superfish issue and we don't use lenovo here. But when i get new equipment first thing i do is format and reinstall to get rid of all the crapware.

                                          Superfish was BIOS level tho. Good luck getting rid of that.

                                          Superfish wasn't BIOS, their Lenovo support tool was. Superfish was in the Key'ed NIC and drivers.

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                                          • travisdh1
                                            travisdh1 @Dashrender last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                                            @travisdh1 said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                                            @tiagom said in I Would Fire Someone For....:

                                            I am aware of the Lenovo Superfish issue and we don't use lenovo here. But when i get new equipment first thing i do is format and reinstall to get rid of all the crapware.

                                            Superfish was BIOS level tho. Good luck getting rid of that.

                                            Superfish wasn't BIOS, their Lenovo support tool was. Superfish was in the Key'ed NIC and drivers.

                                            Just goes to prove why to stay away from Lenovo, I can't even keep all the bad stuff they've done straight in my head (which one is the actual problem, my head or Lenovo I'll leave to you all.)

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