I was setting up dnf-automatic on a new system today and recalled this post. I changed the reboot option and it made the systemd file as noted, which is what you report. So are you sure someone did not change your config from never to when-changed?

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@black3dynamite the "dd" command is so great and flexible. It can do so much.

@black3dynamite

Files were removed, but still the same error.

[root@test~]# dnf clean all 38 files removed [root@test~]# dnf upgrade Fedora Modular 28 - x86_64 29 MB/s | 159 kB 00:00 Fedora Modular 28 - x86_64 - Updates 50 MB/s | 1.5 MB 00:00 Fedora 28 - x86_64 - Updates 59 MB/s | 30 MB 00:00 Fedora 28 - x86_64 62 MB/s | 60 MB 00:00 ZeroTier, Inc. RPM Release Repository 21 kB/s | 1.5 kB 00:00 Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:00 ago on Tue 14 May 2019 03:42:02 PM UTC. Error: Problem: The operation would result in removing the following protected packages: systemd-udev [root@test~]#

@scottalanmiller I am on 6.4.something and it works for me on Fedora.

No Korora instance to test on

@scottalanmiller said in How Does dnf-automatic Send Emails:

@dashrender said in How Does dnf-automatic Send Emails:

@scottalanmiller said in How Does dnf-automatic Send Emails:

@dashrender said in How Does dnf-automatic Send Emails:

@scottalanmiller said in How Does dnf-automatic Send Emails:

@dashrender said in How Does dnf-automatic Send Emails:

@jaredbusch said in How Does dnf-automatic Send Emails:

@scottalanmiller said in How Does dnf-automatic Send Emails:

Starting from another thread....

If you are used to dealing with commands like mail from the mailx package, you may be used to apps that require a local MTA in order to send emails. In the config files of dnf-automatic however, we can instantly see that there is configuration for entering a non-local server. This means that dnf-automatic is implementing the SMTP protocol (SMTP) itself and is not dropping files in a queue.

[email] # The address to send email messages from. email_from = [email protected] # List of addresses to send messages to. email_to = root # Name of the host to connect to to send email messages. email_host = localhost

Because of this, we know that dnf-automatic is acting as an SMTP server on its own and must be configured for how your network is going to handle email and is not just relying on the default configuration of the system MTA.

No, this is jsut droping a mail to root. not email.

Wouldn't be better to say it's an SMTP client? Akin to Thunderbird?

But in this case it's not doing that, so would be confusing. Thunderbird is an SMTP client, but doesn't do the local drop piece.

What's not doing what? dnf-automatic isn't doing a local drop piece either. It uses SMTP to drop to localhost, not whatever mailx is doing to function.
So in that regard, it should be exactly like what Thunderbird is doing, no?

I don't believe that that is true, but maybe it is.

Well we know dnf-automatic will deliver to postfix on another host assuming that host is configured to allow relay from the dnf host. Am I missing something?

Does dnf-automatic not do both, though?

I don't know if dnf-automatic is doing the local drop piece like mailx does.

@tim_g said in Fedora 27: dnf package question:

@jaredbusch I'd grab screenshots, but dont' have anything immediately available to do it on, adn I'm heading to bed soon.

The default cockpit packages that is installed after selecting Fedora Server Edition using the netinstall.
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@jaredbusch said in Installing Google Chrome on Fedora 27:

@coliver said in Installing Google Chrome on Fedora 27:

@jaredbusch said in Installing Google Chrome on Fedora 27:

@scottalanmiller said in Installing Google Chrome on Fedora 27:

Chrome is easy to install but isn't included in Fedora. Here is the quick and effective way to do it.

WTF?

sudo dnf install -y https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_x86_64.rpm

That doesn't include the repo so it can easily update via dnf does it? Although chrome generally updated by itself so you may not need that functionality.

[jbusch@dt-jared ~]$ ls /etc/yum.repos.d/ fedora-cisco-openh264.repo fedora-updates-testing.repo rpmfusion-free.repo slack.repo fedora.repo google-chrome.repo rpmfusion-free-updates.repo vscode.repo fedora-updates.repo rpmfusion-free-rawhide.repo rpmfusion-free-updates-testing.repo zerotier.repo [jbusch@dt-jared ~]$ cat /etc/yum.repos.d/google-chrome.repo [google-chrome] name=google-chrome baseurl=http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/rpm/stable/x86_64 enabled=1 gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=https://dl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub [jbusch@dt-jared ~]$

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Ah okay, looks like it does.

@black3dynamite said in Updating Fedora 26 to Fedora 27 with DNF:

@JaredBusch said in Updating Fedora 26 to Fedora 27 with DNF:

@black3dynamite said in Updating Fedora 26 to Fedora 27 with DNF:

@NerdyDad said in Updating Fedora 26 to Fedora 27 with DNF:

How often to you upgrade versus fresh install? Fresh install every other release? Any kind of best practice on this?

You can avoid compatibility with packages by using more flatpak apps instead.

Flatpak is not ready for prime time.

Why not?

And that's funny that you said prime time.

There's a post from Flatpak with prime time in the title.

Flatpak 1.0 Released, Ready for Prime Time
https://www.flatpak.org/press/2018-08-20-flatpak-1.0/

And @scottalanmiller coukd say sodiumsuite is awesome and ready for the masses. Still doesn’t make it true.

@JaredBusch said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

@FATeknollogee said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

There really need to be a setting for this in the Workstation GUI.

By default Fedora Workstation + Cinnamon uses dnfdragora which is a totally separate process.

Yes, I realize that.
This setting exists in Cockpit, no reason why it can't be in WS!

@scottalanmiller said in Fedora 26 Failing Salt Update:

@tim_g said in Fedora 26 Failing Salt Update:

Will that uninstall yum-utils? Isn't that still needed for a lot of things?

dnf-utils replaces it.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1478593

@travisdh1 said in Updating Fedora 25 to Fedora 26 with DNF:

Fedora 27 Server note: The server edition hasn't been released yet according to https://getfedora.org/en/server/download/.

Using @scottalanmiller's upgrade instructions, it happily goes to 27.

That has nothing to do with DNF upgrades.